I am enjoying your speculation, Charles, but don't you think you are getting a little ahead of yourself? <G>
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 07:10 AM, Charles wrote:
Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the
testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked
her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account
for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no
(that's in question) and from her own testimony he stopped....is that rape?
Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do?
Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org
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Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it
was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think
she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want
a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex
before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it.
Laurie --- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.netNo, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we shouldn't do this", is that clearly no?
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That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe.
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Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no clear to him how could he be expected to know? Stephi
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Maybe she had sex after Kobe.
David L.
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On the stand in testimony... 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the hospital. 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that is true, why was she still wearing the panties Ugggghhh) 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear she said no.
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