Well, no, I dotnt hink I should be classified as rape.

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From: "Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...


> Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing.  In the
> testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he
asked
> her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes.  That could account
> for the lack of his semen.  (i.e. he didn't finish).  Now, if she said no
> (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stopped....is that
rape?
> Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do?
>
>
> Charles Mims
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> On Behalf Of Laurie
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM
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> Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it
> was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think
> she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't
want
> a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had
sex
> before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it.
>
> Laurie
> --- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not.  If she
> > herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that
> > matters don't you think?  What if all she said to him was "Maybe we
> > shouldn't do this", is that clearly no?
> >
> > Charles Mims
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Behalf Of Jen --
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> > That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stephanie <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM
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> > Did you see number 3?  If the victim is not clear that she made no
> > clear to him how could he be expected to know?
> > Stephi
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> > Maybe she had sex after Kobe.
> >
> >
> > David L.
> >
> > Ben Franklin:  "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As
> > nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters."
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM
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> > Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking...
> >
> >
> > On the stand in testimony...
> > 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her
> > panties from another man.  These are the panties she wore to the
> > hospital.
> > 2)  Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that
> > is true, why was she still wearing the panties
> > Ugggghhh)
> > 3)  Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear
> > she said no.
> >
> > Charles Mims
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