Well, no, I dotnt hink I should be classified as rape. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Sandbox Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking...
> Ok, more stuff is still leaking out of yesterday's hearing. In the > testimony the detective said that in one of her interviews with him he asked > her if he stopped when she said no, and she said yes. That could account > for the lack of his semen. (i.e. he didn't finish). Now, if she said no > (that's in question) and from her own testimony he stopped....is that rape? > Isn't stopping what he's *SUPPOSED* to do? > > > Charles Mims > http://www.the-sandbox.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Laurie > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:19 AM > To: The Sandbox Discussion List > Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > Maybe we shouldn't do this sounds like she wanted to be convinced that it > was ok..that he might care for her afterwards or something to me. I think > she got what she wanted...and then had second thoughts after he didn't want > a relationship with her afterwards. She is young..but she obviously had sex > before...and from what we are hearing now, quite a lot of it. > > Laurie > --- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, but it does have bearing on whether he raped her or not. If she > > herself doesn't remember if she was clear in saying no, then that > > matters don't you think? What if all she said to him was "Maybe we > > shouldn't do this", is that clearly no? > > > > Charles Mims > > http://www.the-sandbox.org > > <http://www.the-sandbox.org/> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Jen -- > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:23 AM > > To: The Sandbox Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > > > > That has nothing to do with weather or not she had sex after Kobe. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephanie <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:24 PM > > Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > > > > Did you see number 3? If the victim is not clear that she made no > > clear to him how could he be expected to know? > > Stephi > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: The Sandbox Discussion > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:11:59 PM > > To: 'The Sandbox Discussion > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List' > > Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > > Maybe she had sex after Kobe. > > > > > > David L. > > > > Ben Franklin: "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As > > nations become corrupt, they have more need of masters." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:28 PM > > To: 'The Sandbox Discussion List' > > Subject: [Sndbox] Breaking... > > > > > > On the stand in testimony... > > 1) Detective said their was male Caucasian pubic hair and semen in her > > panties from another man. These are the panties she wore to the > > hospital. > > 2) Victim says no sex with no one for 4 days before Kobe (ok, if that > > is true, why was she still wearing the panties > > Ugggghhh) > > 3) Detective says that the victim was unclear if she made it clear > > she said no. > > > > Charles Mims > > http://www.the-sandbox.org > > <http://www.the-sandbox.org/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, > > digest) can be made by going > > to > > > http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, > > digest) can be made by going to > > > http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net > > > > ===== > I wanted a perfect ending... Now, I've learned, the hard way, that some > poems don't rhyme, and some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, > and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, taking the moment, and > making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. > Delicious ambiguity. > --Gilda Radner > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ________________________________ > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going > to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net > > > > ________________________________ > > Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net > ________________________________ Changes to your subscription (unsubs, nomail, digest) can be made by going to http://sandboxmail.net/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net