When my girls were like.... six and three years old... I dreaded going out to eat with them.... I was embarrassed. Food everywhere crawling under the table etc.
We tried to keep them in line, but it was hard.... Now they are *much* better..... My wife had the attitude that they were just kids.... relax.... I kind of adopted that
attitude... It took awhile... I know what Angela means by wishing that a parent would whip a kids ass, but I honestly am more bothered at a restaurant when a
parent loudly is pecking at every wrong move a kid makes.... I just laugh at the kid.... (unless it is mine :) ) The parent is the one that I get sick of listening to.





On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 06:56 AM, Laurie wrote:


This seemed to me to be more than just a behavior
thing...she seemed to really not like kids.

I always took my kids to the movies, church and out to
eat. I figured they would learn how to act there by
going..and being told how to act..and if they
misbehaved...I dwelt with it.....

Laurie
--- Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, she does seem to be quite vitriolic, but I do
agree with her, if your
kids aren't well behaved, don't bring them to a
restaurant.  No one else
wants to deal with your children.  However, there is
no excuse for children
not being able to sit quietly at a table in a
restaurant.  Mine have been
doing it since they were infants.

Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
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With a attitude like she has, I would bet on it.


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No kidding.  Besides, if she and her husband were
doing their jobs the kids
would be able to sit for an hour in a restaurant and
eat.  Mine do.  Perhaps
*she* is the problem.

Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org



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I get the point, but God I feel sorry for her stepkids.....this woman seems to hate kids. This paragraph I found very enlightening "

If your little animal is so wild that he can't sit
quietly in his seat while
in a restaurant, then you need to leave him at home.
My husband has two kids
that are too wild to sit and eat for an hour
straight, so we don't take them
with us when we go out to eat. It really is a very
simple concept. "

Notice she didn't say her kids, or her stepchildren,
but "her husbands
kids".......I've been a stepkid, and God I feel for
her stepkids. They have
the wicked witch for a stepmother...

And before someone says I missed the point, notice
my first sentance......I
got the point. But this just dripped hatred for
kids......



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Your Children Are Ugly

I work in a 'family' restaurant. Apparently, since
we have a multitude of
high chairs, people assume that our nice, sit down
restaurant doubles as a
play place McDonald's. Very often, I can be heard
musing to myself, "Why
isn't anyone beating that kid?"


Did I mention that we're a SIT DOWN restaurant? With carpet on the floor and trendy alcoholic beverages that cost over $7? You would think that our customers would come in and realize that this is not an appropriate place to let your spawn crawl around on the floor under the booths grinding macaroni and cheese into the carpet and howling. You would think that the baby factories that come in would worry about their toddlers playing tag in isles where servers are carrying heavy, steaming hot plates.


They don't. And furthermore, if one of those hot plates were to fall and bash in the brains of their precious little spawn, they would sue us despite the fact that we are a restaurant, not a daycare.


One night, I was waiting on a table with 2 parents and 2 children who were actually sitting in their seats. I was considering myself awfully lucky until a 2-year-old from another table toddled over to my table, snatched some chocolate milk from one of the semi well behaved kids, and then proceeded to lurch on back to his parents.


The parents didn't even notice.



Obviously perturbed, I walked over to them and said in a sickly sweet voice, "While you were busy with your conversation, your child just stole chocolate milk off the table of one of my customers."


The woman doubled over laughing, "Oh my goodness! Isn't that funny?


No, it's not funny. It's not cute. It's incredibly rude and disrespectful. Furthermore, it could have been completely prevented had you been watching your child like you were supposed too. I looked pointedly over to my table hoping that she would notice that my customers were not in the least amused. This woman STILL didn't get it. I wanted to dip her head into a bowl of battery acid.


This big group of Spanish people came into our restaurant another night with about 8 little animals. Oblivious, they got drunk while their kids sprinted though the restaurant, jumped onto random booths, and even ran into the kitchen and came VERY close to dipping their pudgy little fingers into the fryer. Repeatedly, my manager intervened and told the kids that they MUST stay in their seats. No dice. I spent the night wondering how I could push one over and hurt them badly while making it look like an accident. By the time the little monsters had finally left the restaurant, the other paying customers were so annoyed, that my manager had to buy them ALL free dessert to make them happy again.


I guess the point I'm trying to make is: If your little animal is so wild that he can't sit quietly in his seat while in a restaurant, then you need to leave him at home. My husband has two kids that are too wild to sit and eat for an hour straight, so we don't take them with us when we go out to eat. It really is a very simple concept.


I don't find your kids or their behavior particularly cute. In fact, I think your kids are hideously ugly. Your children are whining, crying, rude, nasty, deformed looking little brats that smell like shit and are in serious need of a good, sound beating. I would brutally murder
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