I once "biffed" it right over the handle bars, into the basalt rock in the ditch the day
before school pictures.... that is my Mom's favorite school pic... I still have the scars
under my goatee... If I had had a helmet on.... I bet someone would have credited
it to saving my life..... LOL....



On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 07:36 PM, Sandbox Mail List Administration wrote:

Ouch...yeah, I bet that did hurt.  When I was a younger kid (early elementary school) we road all over the neighborhood.  I lived in Prattville, AL which at that time was about the size of Daytona Beach, maybe a little smaller.  But the road in front of my house was off limits.  Because it was was a major access road and well traveled.
 
But when I was an older kid (pre-teen/teenager) we had moved to Florida out in the woods.  Our street wasn't even paved, so when it would rain we would get on the bikes and slip and slide all over the place.  I tumbled off more times than I can count.
 
I remember when I first got a bike with hand brakes I was was coming down off a clay mound just as fast as I could go and grabbed the wrong brake.  The bike stopped, I didn't.
 
I remember another time I was riding on the handlebars of a bike.  I knew I wasn't supposed to do that, but was doing it anyway.  Got my ankle caught in the spokes, and took both of us down.  Talking about something that hurt!  Once they decided my ankle wasn't broken the parental units broke my butt for riding on the handlebars!
 
Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder
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I remember accidentally hitting the front brake instead of the back brake
after completing a jump .... I ended up "ass over tea kettle" that hurt like
a bitch too.... We weren't doing that near a road... we needed a *much*
better hill for that... <G>




On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 07:18 PM, Sandbox Mail List Administration wrote:

I jumped a picnic table once and landed square in the side of a parked pickup.  Dang that hurt...my uncle blistered my butt for it too....it was his truck.
 
Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harder
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:12 PM
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I am sorry people....but there has to be a difference between jumping your bike near a road, where you might get your
ass run over, and jumping where you couldn't get run over if you tried. We are talking about the kid that ended up in
the road...not anybody elses kid.... not any other situation.... I am not taking a side here because I think that both
*original* positions had merit. I think that there is more to the squabble than that and I am getting a little tired of it.




On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 09:03 PM, Jen -- wrote:

Ok, lets see. Kid punches another kid in the face. The first kid should most defenitely be punished. In this situation we ahve a kid whos minding his own buisness, not purposely trying to hurt anyone and as a result of that gets hit by a car. No different than if for some reason he got excited, runs out in the middle of the road and gets hit by a car. I think that pretty much is going to show him, regardless of age, well I cant do that.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela
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But what does that teach a child....how do they learn lessons about life. If they don't learn these lessons when they are young, then they grow up not always knowing the right thing to do and they are the same ones that grow up and sue e'one over something that just takes a little common sense. Ok, I get the point, you don't think they should be punished for an accident. I don't agree with that. I've seen kids that don't get punished for anything like that.....they are also the kids I don't like b/c in my own personal experience, those are the kids that as they get older, think they can get away with anything if they didn't do it on purpose.

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In a message dated 11/6/2003 2:43:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So a kid can do anything accidentally, no matter how bad it is and not be punished? Guess it makes me a bad mother when my kids accidentally do something that hurts themselves or someone else and I punish them for it.

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you wanna see my arms and see the scars from punishments that were dished out to me for accidents?   you think that made me less clumsy?  nope    it still all comes down to intent.  and if a child didnt intend it then to punish them is wrong

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