Ok,
I'm just using the way my parents did things and the way my husbands parents did
things. No matter what I did, my parents punished me, even if I was trying to do
the right thing. If I had called them and told them I was drunk and needed a
ride home (which is btw what they always said to do) I wouldn't have gone out
ever again. Even when they always said if I ever wanted to be put on birth
control pills to come to them. I went to them....what happened. I was grounded
for 6 months. My husband would call his parents and tell them he couldn't get
home and they would come pick him up and he might be grounded for one weekend
but that was it. Usually not even that much. But b/c he knew he didn't have to
hide it, he honestly never drank that much when he was out. I on other hand, did
everything I could just to spite my parents for saying one thing then doing
another. I swore I would never be that kind of parent. Hell my aunt has a 19 y/o
daughter and from the time she was 16, my aunt told her that if she wanted to
drink or if any of her friends wanted to drink that they could do it at her
house. She informed the parents of the other kids of this and they would all
come in and give my aunt their car keys and stay the whole night. B/C they were
able to do this, they hardly ever did it. Most of the time when teenagers drink
it's b/c they know their parents wouldn't approve and most try to do anything
they can to piss off their parents just to spite them. To this day, my cousin
has only been drunk twice in her life and both times were at her own house under
supervision. And before you say anything, my aunt did this b/c her best friend
in high school was killed by a drunk driver, her own boyfriend that she got in
the car with. If you know they are going to do it, isn't it better to make sure
they do it safely.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] My stance on underage drinkingActually, I'd punish the teenager too. I get them home safely first, but you better believe the punishment would be forthcoming. It would likely be *mitigated* by them having the sense to call me instead of driving drunk, but even that bit of intelligence wouldn't get them out of trouble only lessen the sentence.Charles Mims
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen --
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] My stance on underage drinkingI actually agree with you on the drinking thing, I was just pointing out that I can see how Jackie sees punishing an 8 year old and not a teenager is a little well, it doesnt make sense.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] My stance on underage drinkingMy point was which is better, punishing them for drinking and calling you so they don't drive again and them never calling you again and getting behind the wheel of a car or not punishing them and them calling you whenever they need a ride. Many times I got in the car with someone that was drunk b/c I knew if I called my parents (even on the times I wasn't drinking) they would ground me for life. So I snuck around and did it and was lucky I survived.-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [Sndbox] My stance on underage drinkingWell, she has a good pont there. :-0)
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Subject: Re: [Sndbox] My stance on underage drinking
I know most won't agree with this, but here goes. I'll explain all now so I don't have to elaborate on it in any other posts on this subject. I don't feel that underage drinking always leads to alcoholism or that all teens that drink are troubled. I think a lot do it just to do it, some b/c of peer pressure and some just b/c they like it. None are really good reasons, but it does happen, every day. Now when my kids are in high school and they wind up at a party and drink, then I want them to call me and I'll come pick them up w/o really punishing them for it b/c I'd rather if they do get drunk to call me to come get them than to try to drive home themselves or get in the car with someone else. Not to mention in a lot of cases the more you try to stop them from drinking, the more they are going to do it behind your back just to spite you. I don't approve of underage drinking, regardless of the fact I did it myself as a teen. But the fact still remains, it is a part of everyday life. While maybe not normal as Jackie says, it is part of the norm. Ok, I've put in my two cents now. Good night all.
so an 8 year old who misjudged a jump should be disciplined but a teenager who drinks shouldnt as long as they call for a ride home? that makes sense.
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