I don't much care for the H2 either...but I absolutely am appalled at the idea of a hummer on an S1 base. That's ludicrous.
Charles Mims http://www.the-sandbox.org -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Rickard Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:54 AM To: The Sandbox Discussion List Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Hummer Gets Smaller With H3T I don't know but the new hummers (the H2's) look very unstable and pretty much built for the soccer mom crowd. I won't go into the issues that I have with those folks and their SUVs. The only Hummer that I would buy would be the H1. Yeah, it's a little wide but when you absolutely, positively need to to be there overnight, It will do the trick. Santa? If I can't have a Hummer for christmas I want a 2 1/2 ton 6x6 cargo truck with a mulifuel engine and a snorkle. -- Bill http://www.vlca.net On Wednesday 10 December 2003 21:17, Charles wrote: > Hummer Gets Smaller With H3T > Hummer looks for next hit with "environmentally responsible" concept; > analysts, environmentalists skeptical. > > by TCC Team <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2003-12-09) > > <javascript:zoom('/images/gallery/7540_image.jpg');> > > Related Articles: > > <http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6663> GM Goes "Sport" > With Minivans (12/5/2003) > But can it shake the "soccer-Mom" message? > > > > The Hummer brand may be getting a bit nicer - at least that's the > message General Motors Corp., which owns the rights to develop and > sell Hummer consumer vehicles, will be sending next month as it > unveils its next Hummer concept, a small pickup dubbed H3T, at the > 2004 Greater Los Angeles Auto Show. > > <http://www.thecarconnection.com/subscribe.asp> The show opens to > media on January 2 in Los Angeles and General Motors will use the show > to present its heftiest brand's future direction, as seen through the > lens of a scaled-down concept. Although just a concept, Ed Welburn, > General Motors North American vice president of design, says the H3T > represents a "youthful, smaller, more affordable" direction than today's Hummer. > > Clay Dean, design director for Hummer, describes the brand's next step > even more aggressively, saying the H3T is "a little more > environmentally responsible" than what the brand is known for. Unlike > Hummer's current vehicle lineup, which includes the Hummer H1 > originally built for the military, and its smaller counterpart H2, the > H3T - unveiled to media Tuesday - is built on a compact pickup-truck > frame, is drastically smaller, sports an in-line-five turbocharged > engine with 350 hp and, as a result, could get upwards of 22 miles per > gallon, according to General Motors officials. > > A vehicle similar to the H3T, called simply H3, is expected to be > available from General Motors in 2005 and, although Dean is unwilling > to say whether it will be pickup or sport-utility-vehicle, it will be > "obviously a HUMMER in its appearance and capabilities." > > Uncertain future? > > Analysts, however, aren't so sure that GM will have a hit on its hands > simply by slapping a Hummer nameplate on a vehicle's grille. "It's all > about prestige," says Marty Bernstein, a marketing consultant and > principal of Marty Bernstein, Inc. in Troy, Mich. He says the key to > Hummer's recent success is the exclusivity that comes along with > owning an expensive and oversized vehicle. "There comes a point when a vehicle is too affordable. > Look at Mercedes-Benz after it started offering a car for under > $30,000 in the U.S. market. It lost market share in the luxury sector > in the end. It's like Tiffany's selling cubic zirconium. It just doesn't work." > > Dean counters, saying that the H3T and the vehicle that will > eventually spawn from the concept will continue to be top line in > amenities and off-road functionality, even if it is smaller and more > affordable. In addition to an exterior strikingly like the H2, Dean > points to features like satin aluminum trimmed interior components, an > inclinometer and altimeter embedded in the instrument panel, and a DVD > camera placed in the hood to record driving experiences, saying such > things will "telegraph a new philosophy of elegance that will becomes an icon." > > Another iconic trait of the Hummer brand in recent years has been the > onslaught of environmental criticism that has followed its rise in the > United States since the introduction of the H2 in 2001. Although the > turbodiesel H1 can achieve a respectable 17 mpg on the highway, the H2 > claims a top fuel number of 12 mpg and much lower numbers in everyday > driving, and that has made that vehicle a prime target for SUV critics. > > Brendan Bell, the global warming conservation assistant for the Sierra > Club, a California-based environmental lobby, says that General Motors > will have to do a lot more than simply saying the next HUMMER will be > "not as bad as the H1 or H2." > > "General Motors is traditionally behind," he says, referring to making > serious gains in fuel economy. "I don't think Americans would believe > that a Hummer is a more efficient vehicle," regardless of the > improvement. Bell says that Ford Motor Co. has proven it can get > between 35 and 40 mpg out of conventional powertrain Ranger pickups > and criticizes General Motors for not bringing similar technology to > market in a concept it touts as more environmentally friendly. For > now, he says, "GM suggesting that a HUMMER is good for the environment > is like suggesting milkshakes help people lose weight." > > > Charles Mims > http://www.the-sandbox.org <http://www.the-sandbox.org/> _______________________________________________ Sndbox mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://a8.mewebdns-a8.com/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net _______________________________________________ Sndbox mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://a8.mewebdns-a8.com/mailman/listinfo/sndbox_sandboxmail.net
