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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:14
AM
Subject: RE: [Sndbox] Hummer Gets Smaller
With H3T
I don't much care for the H2 either...but I absolutely am
appalled at the
idea of a hummer on an S1 base. That's ludicrous.
Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
-----Original
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On Behalf Of Bill Rickard
Sent:
Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Hummer Gets Smaller With H3T
I don't know
but the new hummers (the H2's) look very unstable and pretty
much built for
the soccer mom crowd. I won't go into the issues that I have
with those
folks and their SUVs.
The only Hummer that I would buy would be the H1.
Yeah, it's a little wide
but when you absolutely, positively need to to be
there overnight, It will
do the trick.
Santa? If I can't have a
Hummer for christmas I want a 2 1/2 ton 6x6 cargo
truck with a mulifuel
engine and a snorkle.
--
Bill
http://www.vlca.net
On Wednesday 10
December 2003 21:17, Charles wrote:
> Hummer Gets Smaller With
H3T
> Hummer looks for next hit with "environmentally responsible"
concept;
> analysts, environmentalists skeptical.
>
> by
TCC Team <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(2003-12-09)
>
>
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Related Articles:
>
> <http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6663>
GM Goes "Sport"
> With Minivans (12/5/2003)
> But can it shake the
"soccer-Mom" message?
>
>
>
> The Hummer brand may be
getting a bit nicer - at least that's the
> message General Motors
Corp., which owns the rights to develop and
> sell Hummer consumer
vehicles, will be sending next month as it
> unveils its next Hummer
concept, a small pickup dubbed H3T, at the
> 2004 Greater Los Angeles
Auto Show.
>
> <http://www.thecarconnection.com/subscribe.asp>
The show opens to
> media on January 2 in Los Angeles and General
Motors will use the show
> to present its heftiest brand's future
direction, as seen through the
> lens of a scaled-down concept.
Although just a concept, Ed Welburn,
> General Motors North American
vice president of design, says the H3T
> represents a "youthful,
smaller, more affordable" direction than today's
Hummer.
>
>
Clay Dean, design director for Hummer, describes the brand's next step
> even more aggressively, saying the H3T is "a little more
>
environmentally responsible" than what the brand is known for. Unlike
>
Hummer's current vehicle lineup, which includes the Hummer H1
>
originally built for the military, and its smaller counterpart H2, the
> H3T - unveiled to media Tuesday - is built on a compact pickup-truck
> frame, is drastically smaller, sports an in-line-five turbocharged
> engine with 350 hp and, as a result, could get upwards of 22 miles
per
> gallon, according to General Motors officials.
>
> A
vehicle similar to the H3T, called simply H3, is expected to be
>
available from General Motors in 2005 and, although Dean is unwilling
>
to say whether it will be pickup or sport-utility-vehicle, it will be
>
"obviously a HUMMER in its appearance and capabilities."
>
>
Uncertain future?
>
> Analysts, however, aren't so sure that GM
will have a hit on its hands
> simply by slapping a Hummer nameplate on
a vehicle's grille. "It's all
> about prestige," says Marty Bernstein,
a marketing consultant and
> principal of Marty Bernstein, Inc. in
Troy, Mich. He says the key to
> Hummer's recent success is the
exclusivity that comes along with
> owning an expensive and oversized
vehicle. "There comes a point when a
vehicle is too affordable.
>
Look at Mercedes-Benz after it started offering a car for under
>
$30,000 in the U.S. market. It lost market share in the luxury sector
>
in the end. It's like Tiffany's selling cubic zirconium. It just
doesn't
work."
>
> Dean counters, saying that the H3T and the
vehicle that will
> eventually spawn from the concept will continue to
be top line in
> amenities and off-road functionality, even if it is
smaller and more
> affordable. In addition to an exterior strikingly
like the H2, Dean
> points to features like satin aluminum trimmed
interior components, an
> inclinometer and altimeter embedded in the
instrument panel, and a DVD
> camera placed in the hood to record
driving experiences, saying such
> things will "telegraph a new
philosophy of elegance that will becomes an
icon."
>
> Another
iconic trait of the Hummer brand in recent years has been the
>
onslaught of environmental criticism that has followed its rise in the
> United States since the introduction of the H2 in 2001. Although the
> turbodiesel H1 can achieve a respectable 17 mpg on the highway, the
H2
> claims a top fuel number of 12 mpg and much lower numbers in
everyday
> driving, and that has made that vehicle a prime target for
SUV critics.
>
> Brendan Bell, the global warming conservation
assistant for the Sierra
> Club, a California-based environmental
lobby, says that General Motors
> will have to do a lot more than
simply saying the next HUMMER will be
> "not as bad as the H1 or
H2."
>
> "General Motors is traditionally behind," he says,
referring to making
> serious gains in fuel economy. "I don't think
Americans would believe
> that a Hummer is a more efficient vehicle,"
regardless of the
> improvement. Bell says that Ford Motor Co. has
proven it can get
> between 35 and 40 mpg out of conventional
powertrain Ranger pickups
> and criticizes General Motors for not
bringing similar technology to
> market in a concept it touts as more
environmentally friendly. For
> now, he says, "GM suggesting that a
HUMMER is good for the environment
> is like suggesting milkshakes help
people lose weight."
>
>
> Charles Mims
> http://www.the-sandbox.org <http://www.the-sandbox.org/>
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