Hey, I've got two cents that you're welcome to...

Both Pete and Matt mentioned that Keith's experience was outside the
bounds of the normal experience.

Keith, you could make sure that your setup is valid by setting up
Message Sniffer on your own workstation with srvany, and then manually
running some messages from your held spam folder there.  Because you
would test the files manually, you wouldn't need to bother with
installing a whole mail server infrastructure.

If you want to go the extra mile and test what happens when many
instances are called, write a batch file that uses the "start" command
to launch independent copies of your sniffer executable.  The persistent
sniffer may well scan messages so fast that it keeps up with the parent
script, so you'd have to experiment with how many sniffer instances
you'd want to invoke.

As for my own experience, my server was on the edge and had significant
disk and cpu pressure.  I found that the persistent-mode sniffer created
a noticeable decline in how busy my disk system was.  In fact, I used to
have a lot of log corruption in Declude, and this also noticeably
declined.

I also had a bad first experience with the persistent sniffer, and
switch to FireDaemon from SrvAny, and set the start priority for sniffer
to "Above Normal"; I can't prove it, but I'm convinced that without that
setting, Declude starves out other processes such as the persistent
sniffer, and then the other sniffer clients get impatient and process
the files themselves, causing more cpu pressure.

Andrew 8)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:03 PM
To: Keith Johnson
Subject: Re[6]: [sniffer] Persistent Sniffer


On Friday, April 1, 2005, 3:37:33 PM, Keith wrote:

<snip/>

KJ> pegged the CPU as you stated.  We have batted around running BIND 
KJ> for NT/2000 on the local machine, but my fear was overhead of 
KJ> another major process running.  I don't have any good stats on how 
KJ> much CPU/Memory BIND on an Imail Server requires, thus, we have a 
KJ> SUN/BIND box local to the switch.  Are you aware of any stats on 
KJ> this?

No hard data on hand, however a back of the envelope calculation
suggests that you probably have a good chunk of ram left - and that this
will probably expand if you can retire messages more quickly -- that has
a tendency to speed up everything since everything has more room etc.

I've never heard a bad experience with this approach, and I have proven
it several times on otherwise overwhelmed machines. Paradoxically, for
example, my woefully underpowered P2/450 will choke if I don't run bind
locally - even if the DNS server it points at is on the a hot, dedicated
box on the same switch. The minute I put bind on the same box as the
server it recovers nicely.

KJ>         We don't run the AVAFTERJM switch.  This is done in part due

KJ> to so many of our customers still look at their spam email from time

KJ> to time.  We heavily use the ROUTETO and MAILBOX command, thus, if I

KJ> let a virus go through to their to mailbox, they could potentially 
KJ> open a virus spam email and hurt themselves.

Understood. What about prescan?

KJ>         We defrag each partition every night using Diskeeper and it 
KJ> works great.  I regularly look at the Sniffer directory to ensure no

KJ> left over .fin files and others that could cause server load.

Sounds good - I like Diskeeper too - won't run a Winx box without it.

KJ> I will
KJ> retry it again tonight and see what type of results I get and post 
KJ> them here.  It could be as you say, I am on the far side :)

Thanks & Good Luck,

_M




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