Thanks Bob for replying. Unfortunately, I still have this problem as I discussed earlier about the elevator dual rates. I tried starting all over again from scratch and I still have the elevator deflecting "up" approximately 1/16". I didn't mix anything in. I tried to see what would happen if I started fresh and worked on the setting up the dual rates first after centering the servos. The same situation would happen with the elevator deflecting up 1/16". The d/r percentage that this deflection would be noticeable is around 75 to 85 percent of the dual rates on. Again the setup is a Mini Ellipse with one servo actuating the v-tail and two aileron servos. The tranny is a Stylus with glider card. I have set up the spoileron, aileron diff and aileron d/r (with no problems on the aileron d/r on or off) and spoileron/elevator mix. But the elevator deflecting up with the d/r on is driving me crazy! Any other help will be greatly appreciated! Glide -----Original Message----- From: Lenard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Programming my Stylus and the Mini Ellipse Sometimes it's just easier to start over, especially with just a 3 servo program (reset). If you must trouble shoot, it sounds like you have "armed" your "Elevator Position Switch" (default is second switch from right on front of X-mitter...not top). It allows you 3 elevator trim positions. Or maybe one of your "elevator positions" is miss programmed to your "dual rate elevator" switch. Good Luck, Bob Lenard Laguna Niguel, CA -----Original Message----- From: glide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RCSE (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 7:51 PM Subject: [RCSE] Programming my Stylus and the Mini Ellipse > I am trying to set up the Mini Ellipse with a Airtronic Stylus radio (with >glider card). The set up on the plane is: > >one elevator servo >two servos in the wing (left and right ailerons) > >I got the programming where I got the differential and spoilerons are set >up. But when I try setting up the dual rates for the elevator, I notice >when I turn it on and off (the dual rates), there is a slight movement of >the elevator and I can't get rid of it. In other words, when I set the dual >rates to normal (or off) then turn the dual rates on (meaning less elevator >throw) there is a slight "up" deflection of the elevator say about less than >1/16" of an inch. I was thinking it was because the elevator is mixed into >something that is causing it to deflect slightly up when I turn it on (but >to my knowledge, I didn't mix anything in). Could you help me on this >puzzling dilemma? > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]