Brian,

That could be said of about any model Joe flys then.  I have watched him 
successfully HLG several different models out.  One fairly heavy old beater 
looking thing he was flying several years ago in Tulsa, I saw him launch out 
several times in a row while shooting landing practice.  Basically that anoits 
Joe as one of the Master Pilots and does not really say a whole lot about the 
plane.  Don't get me wrong I think the Supra is one of best planes out there 
but I do not necessarily consider it the bench mark for all other designs.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
---- Brian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Joe Wurts who could fly any model he chooses, winning the Nats, coming to 
> Tullahoma and hand launching into a sky out 95% of the time did not hurt the 
> Supras anointing any too much.. YUP..Gordy knows!! (grin) Brian
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Joe Rodriguez 
>   To: soaring@airage.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:18 AM
>   Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Supra or Onyx JW??
> 
> 
>   What I find interesting why is the Supra considered the "bench mark" ? who 
> is the soaring lord who made this decree? 
> 
>   The Supra is the most documented sailplane since it's release to the 
> public, with it's many issues depending what serial number you have. I can 
> not agree that fits a standard for "bench mark" status. 
> 
> 
> 
>   j
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Gordysoar 
>     To: soaring@airage.com 
>     Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:03 PM
>     Subject: [RCSE] Re: Supra or Onyx JW??
> 
> 
> 
>     -I went with the Onyx Jw because I thought it performed about like a
>     Supra - Jack
> 
>     What I find interesting is that the Supra is considered the 'bench
>     mark' and then there are the others...cheaper, but with some feature
>     that makes them...better? worth more? almost as good for the cost?
> 
>     There are a lot of reasons to chose something other than the ships that
>     are most proven and popluar, cost being one but in fact the cost is a
>     few lawn mowings or driveway shovelings extra cash away from each
>     other.
> 
>     The number one reason to get something other than the 'bench mark'
>     ship?
>     Because you want to try something else...it makes the hobby that much
>     more fun for you.
> 
>     Second best reason...because IF you enter a contest flying the same
>     ship as the majority....you are left with one less excuse for not
>     having done as well as they all did. Flying the same design as the
>     group  can make Man On Man more about the pilot.  Maybe takes a little
>     more guts :-)
> 
>     Third Reason...because you still believe that a certain model's foil or
>     weight or span offers some advantage that will tip the time or landing
>     points your way over the other poor saps stuck with that that 'bench
>     mark' sailplane. 
> 
> 
>     Gordy
> 
> 
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