<<Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go>>. This may be true more than you suspect :-)
David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Copp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Soaring List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS > First I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for the guts > to fly man on man. Great job guys!!! BTW. Thanks for the ass whipping > Manny! > > Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to liked the > idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site has some > very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found yourself > at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers and 4 > winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group launched 1 1/2 > to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers took full > advantage of it. When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough time to > figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you did need > a good launch set up. > > The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 landing > points possible. > > The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The first round > was a 3 minute bell curve straight up. > > What I heard for suggestions: > * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a tighter > landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are landing all > over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 mile > track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would receive > no points. It would be safer and more controlled. > * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights. > * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as soon as > possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can get the > group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you have the > space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field we can't > spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out of the > next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten the line > before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind. > > At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your July 7th > Sunday is open come on out. > > Tom Copp > COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES > www.f3x.com > 949-645-7032 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM > To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List > Subject: Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS > > <<Was there much of guys "chasing the leader" around > the field, or did > everyone try to find their own air? If it's at all > like the IHLGF, I'm > always surprised how little "poaching" actually takes > place. You have > less > time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big > difference, but I > would think that with good launches there would be the > opportunity to > just > try and cover the leader. > > The launch lines were quite short, and the winches > easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was > brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was > not instantly comfortable on any of my flights. > (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but > if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break > away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all > their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10 > minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the > top 3 made their times) > > I was trying to figure out if this would have been the > case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think > many more people would have made their times had it > been held in a "normal" contest format. There would > have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to > read and go the other way. > > The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it > was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we > normally fly in. > > Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was > a hoot! > > D > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
