Looks like things are gettin' kinda "hot" in Bakersfield :-) Dan --- David Zucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <<Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go>>. > > This may be true more than you suspect :-) > > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Copp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Soaring List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:12 AM > Subject: RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS > > > > First I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for > the > guts > > to fly man on man. Great job guys!!! BTW. Thanks for the ass > whipping > > Manny! > > > > Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to > liked > the > > idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site > has > some > > very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found > yourself > > at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers > and 4 > > winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group > launched 1 > 1/2 > > to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers > took > full > > advantage of it. When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough > time to > > figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you > did > need > > a good launch set up. > > > > The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 > landing > > points possible. > > > > The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The > first > round > > was a 3 minute bell curve straight up. > > > > What I heard for suggestions: > > * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a > tighter > > landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are > landing all > > over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 > mile > > track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would > receive > > no points. It would be safer and more controlled. > > * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights. > > * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as > soon as > > possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can > get the > > group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you > have > the > > space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field > we > can't > > spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out > of the > > next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten > the line > > before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind. > > > > At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your > July 7th > > Sunday is open come on out. > > > > Tom Copp > > COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES > > www.f3x.com > > 949-645-7032 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM > > To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List > > Subject: Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS > > > > <<Was there much of guys "chasing the leader" around > > the field, or did > > everyone try to find their own air? If it's at all > > like the IHLGF, I'm > > always surprised how little "poaching" actually takes > > place. You have > > less > > time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big > > difference, but I > > would think that with good launches there would be the > > opportunity to > > just > > try and cover the leader. > > > > The launch lines were quite short, and the winches > > easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was > > brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was > > not instantly comfortable on any of my flights. > > (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but > > if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break > > away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all > > their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10 > > minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the > > top 3 made their times) > > > > I was trying to figure out if this would have been the > > case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think > > many more people would have made their times had it > > been held in a "normal" contest format. There would > > have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to > > read and go the other way. > > > > The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it > > was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we > > normally fly in. > > > > Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was > > a hoot! > > > > D > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" > and > > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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