On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 02:26:11PM -0600, Howard Mark wrote:

| Now to my question. Is it possible that this is pager interference?

Of course.  But there's no way to tell for sure.

You said that people were trying to locate the signals with scanners.
Do you know what kind of scanners they were using?

If you're using one that you can listen to, the data transmissions
sent by a pager have a very definite sound.  Also, they're not usually
on all the time -- instead, they may last only a few seconds, and
happen only every few minutes, making them hard to track down.

Of course, R/C receivers aren't known for their awesome abilities at
rejecting interference.  Depending on how they're designed, they're
not only vulnerable to interference on and near their designated
channel, but may be vulnerable to interference at other totally
different frequencies as well.  Good design reduces their
vulnerabilities to other signals, but it's difficult to remove them
all and yet keep your receiver small and cheap.

Probably the best way to determine if a specific receiver is getting
hit is to get another, identical receiver, with the same crystal, and
crack it open and put an amplifier in right before the signal is
decoded, so you can hear it.  That way, you'll have a scanner that
will pick up the same noise as your receiver.  Of course, the
downsides are that this requires some electronics skill, and that it's
tied to that one type of receiver, on that one channel.  And you've
ruined a perfectly good receiver :)

http://www.bergent.net/SC-DC.pdf has a good talk about the types of
interference that R/C receivers deal with.

| Our field is on the high plains just east of the foothills near
| Denver. The pager antennas are located in the foothills above - and
| in the plains to the east below. A hi-gain antenna (yagi...)

Yagis are only one of many different types of high gain antennas
... not all high gain antennas are Yagis.

Also, the pagers used by restraunts and the like are often on 72 mHz.
(I've looked -- they often have the frequency marked on them.)  I
seriously doubt these use 300 watts (1-5 seems much more likely), but
if your plane is closer to a restraunt than it is to you, maybe ...

| I've read that repeaters can use 300W of power!

I don't see why a pager tower couldn't use more -- it depends on what
they have a license for.  As for repeaters, 1000 watt repeaters are
not unheard of on other bands.

As for what these people should do to catch the interference, if that
is in fact what it is, is keep scanning, even before there's a
shoot-down.  Even if nobody is flying.  Scan the entire band, and keep
doing it.  If a signal appears and they can't track it down, ask the
local hams for help -- they often love a (useful!) challenge like that.

-- 
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