Honda Element.... as in the toaster element... Looks like a toaster... has a name that is a part of a toaster... must be a toaster...

My son an I love the link between the two. :-)


Jim Laurel wrote:

Yes, yes.  The Allroad didn't make my list, though it should have.  A bit
shorter than the A6 Avant, right?

Is the Allroad long enough for sailplane bags when the passenger seat is in
the fully aft position?

One of our club members is considering a Honda Element, which also looks
very spacious and practical.  I wonder if they come in AWD?

-Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Slaughter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Jim Laurel; soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Ultimate soaring car?


I don't know about it's ultimateness, but my wife's Audi Allroad would
fit your criteria perfectly.  At a bit less money, and a bit more
capacity, a Honda Pilot would be a more utilitarian answer (that's what
I drive).  Both serve us well in here in Wyoming, with messy passes and
forest service roads.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:22 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Ultimate soaring car?


So, the discussion about the suitability of Corvettes for hauling
sailplanes got me to thinking more about my next choice of vehicle.  It
should have the following attributes:

1) Space to haul 2 unlimited planes and a 2 meter plane + winch,
toolbox, 1 Optima battery, turnaround, radio cases + at least 1,
preferably 2 passengers
2) Fast and comfortable for those long hauls to away contests
3) Reasonable fuel economy (20-21mpg highway minimum)
4) All wheel drive, since here in Washington the passes are often a
mess, roads are often wet, and I like to ski after work in the winter.
5) Decent driving dynamics
6) Enough clearance to travel forest service roads to slope sites
7) NOT a minivan

Here's my short list:
--Volvo XC70
--Audi A6 Avant
--Audi S4 Avant (not sure if long enough) --Dodge (Mercedes) short
wheelbase Sprinter (no AWD yet, but likely for
2007 model year)
--Subaru whatchamacallit wagon

I have an old Land Rover 110 that has been a project vehicle for 2 years
and is now nearing completion.  Size-wise, it's about perfect, but it is
slow, lumbering, and eats high octane petrol like there's no tomorrow
(curse the DOT and EPA for not getting us decent diesel fuel sooner; I'd
love to have a nice 300 Tdi rather than the V8).  Plus, the HVAC system
is useless - pretty much windows up or down.  In the plus column,
however, it will get you to any slope site you like and then some.  It's
also got a rooftop tent, which might be nice for those 2-day contests.

Let's hear some suggestions!

--Jim Laurel

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