Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

[Ben Diss]

Investigative summary of the incident:  http://www.airforce.dnd.ca/dfs/pdf/REPORTS/FTI/CT155202.pdf "The mission was a navigation trip and part of a conversion syllabus designed to familiarize the Royal Air Force (RAF) student with the NFTC Hawk variant. With the area portion completed, the crew was conducting some proficiency flying at 15 Wing. The IP had just taken control and as the aircraft approached the departure end of Runway 29R, a bird was observed just left of the nose. Both crewmembers heard a thump, felt vibrations and noted a change in engine pitch. This was followed immediately by audio and caption engine warnings (T6NL&ECA) and high engine temperature indication (660 C). "The IP traded airspeed for altitude, confirmed that engine temperatures remained high, reduced throttle to idle and told the student to prepare to abandon the aircraft. The aircraft reached a maximum altitude of approximately 3700 MSL (1700 AGL). When the aircraft descended through 3000 MSL the IP transmitted his intention to eject to Moose Jaw tower. After confirming the student was ready, the IP ordered and initiated ejection. "Both occupants cleared the aircraft and descended under parachutes but for less than 30 seconds prior to landing. One crewmember was seriously injured in the sequence and the other received minor injuries. The aircraft was completely destroyed when it crashed about seven seconds later in a farmers field. "The investigation is on going and focusing on a wide range of issues including the aspects of low and slow speed (below 300 KIAS) engine failure in the CT155 and ejection criteria. Also, the investigation will examine engine performance after bird ingestion and aircrew life support equipment. " Ben Diss wrote: Martin-  Take a look at this video.  Maybe you'll appreciate the dangers. http://www.wimp.com/stray/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin,  I am surprised at your take on Daryl's positing. I can assure you that a collision between a model and man carrying air vehicle could have dire consequences for both pilots.  RC flying exists only because our organization has succeeded in convincing the FAA that we are all reasonable people that would never knowingly pose a danger to aerial navigation. We must all conduct our flying activities so that we can never cause a collision or near miss with a full size aircraft. I have to assume that you are not a pilot, if you had flight experience you would realize how hard it is to see a model while you are on approach. Because of ground clutter and probably afternoon glare it is nearly impossible to see a model flying near you. Because of this disadvantage for the full-size pilot, the model flyer must always immediately maneuver a model away from the flight path of a full-size vehicle. Being on the ground you have a much better view of what is going on than the poor guy making his approach. I hope all model flyers take this obligation seriously. I wouldn't want to be the guy who ended RC flying in the US, while at the same time killing some poor guy and his family just trying to get home. As for Daryl overreacting, having the shit scared out of you will do that to you. Please fly safely, and think about that guy that cant see you. Larry Jolly