Phil, You're correct, we do not have much to disagree about. I think your generous sharing of information is first class. I, and a whole legion of builders, have benefited from your experience and wisdom. As for sub classes at a woody event, I believe the GLASS woody contest in Lansing has had "all wood" and "wood wing w/composite fuse" classes the last two years I have attended. Something for everyone! Frankly I think that all contests should fly with a composite class and an all-wood class just to help the sport draw out new people and make it fun for everyone.
John -----Original Message----- From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:10 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio John We have very little to disagree about. I too think that the hobby would benefit from having more scratch builders. At least half the fun for me and many scratch builders is the building part of the hobby. That is why I and many scratch builders spend hours online and elsewhere talking about scratch building techniques. I also have great respect for Ray Hayes and the woody contests that he promotes. I only have a very slight knowledge of that aspect of the hobby since that is not where my interests lie but I have enough knowledge to recognize that he is doing a great service to the hobby by promoting that aspect. The woody class and the hard-core-all-out competition-no-holds-barred type of contest are simply two very different things. Rays offer for having a woody class contest at the soaring masters would be akin to someone else suggesting a molded plane class at a woody contest. I'm guessing that kind of offer would also fall on deaf ears. I think our only area of disagreement is that I don't think the lack of a response to Ray's offer indicates any lack of respect. It is simply indicative of the total split between the two soaring disciplines. Each of the two disciplines has scratch builders. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Phil I totally respect that you, Berry and others are scratch builders. > You > are in the minority. You, and less than the number of fingers on my hands, > will be the builders at this contest. Wouldn't it be nice if we still had > builders not buyers? Well maybe not from you business prospective but > think > of it from the view of the hobby/sport. Ray made a generous offer to have > a > class that would be a wood wing builder class that was completely ignored. > I > think that that is a real slap in the face for him and all the other wood > wing builder/flyer pilots that are supporters of the hobby. I guess they > don't really have that much buying power so it doesn't matter. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:44 PM > To: soaring@airage.com > Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and > JR > Radio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> it looks like ....... this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big >> Bucks, Buy >> & Fly) contest. > > I'm sure there will be at least a few Big Buck, Build & Fly models as well > and some of those will be flown by Big Boys. Mine will be flown by a mere > mortal though. > > Wow! This started out as a light hearted post but I just went back and > read > the entire post I was responding to more closely.......I have the skill > and > determination to build what I fly. I think this a great event and am very > greatful that the effort is being made to put it on. I'll be there with my > home built models. I'm not feeling the least bit left out or slighted. Why > do people assume that scratch builders aren't really scratch builders if > they don't use much wood anymore? > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> "no store bought" Are you kidding? That is heresy! >> >> It's sad but it looks like (from the lack of anyone responding to your >> post >> in the last 24hr) this is going to be the "BBBBB&Y" (Big Boy, Big Bucks, >> Buy >> & Fly) contest. You have to save your support money for the >> craftsman/builder events. It looks like no one values, or gives any >> consideration, to the people that have the skill and determination to >> build >> what they fly. Not a big enough market I guess. >> >> John > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL > are generally NOT in text format > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
