Geoff,

    Now that servers are as cheap as Tupperware I might consider a RADIUS
with WPA if you are that concerned with secy. I mean are we talking
thousands or millions here? Or just data secy? There are all sorts of cool
ways to enhance WEP and Encryption that would make it time consuming to hack
your box. Just ask say the word in your search engine and you will find it;
LEAP, EAP,SPEKE...maybe even some Quantum Cryptography might be a nice hobby
at short distances. Spend some money on a Zyxel or 3COM router and put a
server behind it, firewall to and proxy or GTWY. This stuff is
Tupperware;you can't give it away. You need the GINSU Server routergodbox!
Haaaayaaaaa!

tomaso,


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] Step by step approach to breaking a WEP key


> Geoff,
> Thank you very much for your reply. I'm not a network admin, other than my
> own and a couple of friends but they all want wireless now so I'm trying
to
> convince them to do " ANYTHING" other than plug in their wireless  router
> and brag to me how cool they think this is. Regarding my home wireless
> network I'm concerned that I'm not configured for best security. You gave
> two options for enhancing security, ttls or better crypto. I am not
> familiar with ttls. Using my WRG54T w/ a crossover cable off of my primary
> router BEFSR81. I have WEP enabled w/128 bit passphrase that I came up
> with. ( for what it is worth) Would you suggest not broadcasting my SSID?
> (I thought I needed it to identify my AP). Should I use Mac  filtering?
> I'm asking all this because this group has inspired me to put up a radio
> for outside access to the web and email. I don't want to get serious about
> this till I have some basic knowledge above. I live in a small town with
> one public hot spot. I want my own private access because I work outside
> and local and want 24/7 access to the web and email not my own network at
> this time. Maybe later.
> I have been building and using computers since 1985 but I still consider
> myself a newbee when it comes to router management.
> Thanks again for your comments and support. Network Security has been a
> hobby of mine for some time. I enjoy passing on all the wisdom I glean
from
> you folks.
> Namast'e
> Joseph
>
> At 11:00 PM 5/14/2005, you wrote:
>
> >Not a greenhorn question.  can't remember ever needing to
> >do this exercise for wlan admin purposes. but going through
> >the steps and busting a key on your own box illustrates the
> >value of learning how to set up a ttls solution with certificate
> >exchange or at least switching to better crypto.
> >- Geoff
> >
> >>From: Joseph Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] Step by step approach to breaking a WEP key
> >>Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:33:41 -0700
> >>
> >>Frank,
> >>I hope I don't sound like a complete "greenhorn" here, but I have to
ask,
> >>could you give some examples where one would need to crack a WEP Key?
> >>Locked out of a router?
> >>I have been following this list for some time now and watched the
> >>meetings via web cast. I know there are applications for WEP key
cracking
> >>but I'm so new to networking I'm not sure what they would be.
> >>Thanks Frank,
> >>Joe
> >>
> >>At 10:09 AM 5/13/2005, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article118.php
> >>>
> >>>"In this two part series, we will give you a step by step approach to
> >>>breaking a WEP key. The approach taken will be to standardize as many
> >>>variables as possible so that you can concentrate on the mechanics of
WEP
> >>>cracking without being hindered by hardware and software bugs. The
entire
> >>>attack is done with publicly available software and doesn't require
special
> >>>hardware-just a few laptops and wireless cards......."
> >>>
> >>>--------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Frank Keeney
> >>>Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
> >>>http://www.wlanparts.com
> >>
> >>"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know
> >>peace." Jimi Hendrix
> >
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