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my goal in life is to be Microsoft-free by 2007.
think i can make it? some microsoft is hard to beat--XP Pro is great. i love
outlook. Word is boated but stable. not so great? Frontpage is THE worst,
followed by Excel, Project, Access, and Powerpoint.
im cautiously optimistic about having better
luck with OO soon, and ill continue to post my positions. i cant post actual
metric due to DoD regs. by the way, Linux is still a pain.
think ill make it? as one of the Big 5 defense
contractors, we'd love to plug holes.
kip
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:31
PM
Subject: Re: [social] no more OO
here
Hello Kip,
Thanks for trying OpenOffice.org and thanks
for the email.
Sorry your writers were having such problems. We
do hope you'll give us a try again sometime. I'm not sure what the
problem was, but I understand how frustrating computer problems can be.
One thing to keep in mind, the MS Word .doc format is a prioriatary
secret, meaning that Microsoft doesn't reveal to other developers (other than
a select few they work with) how to create perfectly formed - perfectly
compatible files. All programs, including OpenOffice.org, that use the
MS Word .doc formats (again, aside from the few that work directly with MS) do
so through reverse engineering. While OOo's developers have done an
amazing job so far with the format, there is still room for improvement, and
we will continue to improve. This "guess work" and the problems
associated with it would not be necessary if MS were to release the
specifications for the Word .doc format to everyone. But, as you have
attested to, people's need to work with .doc and for it to "just work" keeps
people coming back to Microsoft Office.
That being said, it seems
clear that at this time OpenOffice.org is not able to meet your needs. I
appreciate your input and insights into areas in which we need to
improve. Again, please do check back with us the next time you hear
about a new release.
Thanks again for trying OpenOffice.org!
On 1/26/06, kip
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
no,
the docs are crashing exponentially as they grow. we start with a
style set and a blank doc. when they strart hitting the 50 page range,
systems start crashing. its not just some are crashing--all of them seem
to. they never--i repeat, NEVER crash with word. and i dont like Frame.
its pervasive, but its got the worlds most clumsy stylesheet creator. RAM
is 512 on laptops and 1 gig on descktops. seems to crash with different
styles and different platforms. workflow is simple--writer,
review/markup on paper or 1 online markuop saved to a network drive, and
then revised.
wish i had your luck. you should see how mad my writers
were.
Note: Word doc converted to OO is worse.
kip
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Byfield"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:23 PM Subject: Re:
[social] no more OO here
> On Thu, 2006-26-01 at 21:24 -0500,
kip wrote: > >> secondly, sure--OO runs fine on my computer
too-until i start getting >> into >> 50 - 60 pages of a
book with a dozen styles and a bunch of screen >>
captures. >> its good for a proposal or a white paper, but not the
creation of a book, >> which Word does somewhat clumsily but
without crashing. > > Funny. I've done over a dozen manuals
varying from 200 to 1200 pages in > OpenOffice.org, crammed with
screen shots, and only rarely had problems. > In general, I've not
only found it vastly more stable than MS Word for > long documents,
but also a suitable replacement for FrameMaker, which is > designed
for long documents > > I can't help wondering if your problem
lies in your doc team's work > flow. Or maybe it's a lack of RAM?
> -- > Bruce Byfield 604-421.7177 > Burnaby, BC,
Canada > http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield
>
-- - Chad
Smith http://www.gimpshop.net/
Because everyone loves free software!
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