On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Smoot Carl-Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 02:06 +0200, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> > Smoot Carl-Mitchell wrote:
> > > This primary was mild by most standards.  What we had was basically a
> > > tie, due to the proportional delegate allocation.  In a winner take all
> > > system by state, Clinton would have easily won on Super Tuesday.
> >
> > I think winner take all systems are hugely unfair and undemocratic.
>
> I agree, but our Electroal College system is winner take all by state.


More by evolution than design. Maine and Nebraska can split their votes (I
think one is purely proportional and the other goes by Congressional
district) but rarely do (in fact I don't know if they ever have).


>
> An argument can be made that a winner take all primary system reflects
> the current Electoral College reality.


Sort of. But only if you believe that the Clinton supporters in the states
she won won't vote for Obama in the fall. That may be the case for a couple
of the rust-belt Appalachian states, where, sadly, racism played an overt
role in her victories. The reality is that some states will vote Democratic
no matter who the candidate is and vice versa. The ones that are really
important in regard to the general election are the swing states.

It's going to be an interesting election season: An old white republican
who's sort of weak with the Rep core but appealing to a lot of independents
vs. a young, charismatic black democrat who's also appealing to independents
while being weak among certain elements of the Dem core.

I think Edwards would have been the stronger candidate in the fall (vs.
Obama or Clinton) but the Republicans are in such a weak position that this
may just be the time to make history nonetheless.


>  Personally, I would like to see
> the Electoral College abolished and replaced with a popular vote system.


Agree.


>
>
> > And doesn't have the problem of her being Obama's running mate. I hope
> > he picks John Edwards.
>
> I want to see Edwards as Attorney General.  He would be terrific in that
> position.
>

Oh, yeah! That'll make the country-club Republicans sweat!


Rod

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