Well it kinda works if you plug in each instance master manually - it does not support groups however, which I totally need. I have over a hundred instance masters in my case which would make the problem of plugging them up one by one rather cumbersome. Even though it can possibly be scripted it would make the ICEtree interaction ultra slow. Furthermore, the demo scene does not copy the instances exactly but randomly distributes them it seems - the point cloud and the mesh do not match, while I need an exact match from the point cloud to the generated mesh, preserving UVs aswell as Material information.
Another possibility is scripting this using the point cloud information to distribute duplicated meshes, which is pretty easy indeed. This is however ULTRA slow - it took almost 90 seconds to distribute 50 copies of my instance masters (simple grids). I need to distribute 12.0000, so this is no solution either (the Duplicate function is really, really slow in Soft). The best solution so far? Bring the pointcloud and instance masters over to Maya and do the duplication there :( -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:55:37 -0700 > Von: Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> > An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Betreff: Re: Freeze ICE tree to geometry? > im confused... when i used it i had issue with particle clouds with many > different instance shapes and if i deleted particles. maybe you updated > it? > > regardless ciaran's looks like it works and if that doesn't i know a user > can employ the same technique used by crowdfx to get a polymesh per > instance shape. > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Guillaume Laforge < > guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > No, it supports multi-instance masters, unless my memory is really > bugged > > ;) > > > > But I doubt as I remember supporting more than one shape was the > > interesting thing in building this compound. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Guillaume Laforge > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> yes, but it was already linked :) > >> > >> leo's issue with this compound was that it worked with only one > instance > >> master. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau < > >> marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Is that what y’all looking for?**** > >>> > >>> http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1579**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > >>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron > >>> *Sent:* 11 juillet 2012 13:45 > >>> > >>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > >>> *Subject:* Re: Freeze ICE tree to geometry?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> its there, its just not a single click.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> also implementing it through ICE means you have to implement the logic > >>> too... thats actually the hard part in my opinion. at least if you try > to > >>> do it with pure ICE workflow. if you want a run once script that can > be > >>> done quite easy and i think has been done many times over. which leads > me > >>> to another question/point... do you want animation on the objects too? > >>> cause that changes some things...**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> s**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Tim Crowson < > >>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> wrote:**** > >>> > >>> Exactly. That's the problem I'd like to find a solution for. > Obviously, > >>> I don't want to go converting 40 bazillion ICE polygons to real > polygons. > >>> But a few thousand, sure. > >>> > >>> Modo's replicators, while not in the same league as ICE in terms of > >>> power, make it very easy to convert those instances to geo by merely > >>> 'freezing.' Of course, Softimage lacks any native function for > converting > >>> instances to independant geo, so I guess it's a related obstacle. > Still, > >>> with ICE modeling, seems like the tech is there to allow this kind of > >>> conversion somewhere inside Soft. > >>> > >>> -Tim**** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/11/2012 10:23 AM, Leo Quensel wrote: **** > >>> > >>> Still it remains a pointcloud and not geometry which leaves**** > >>> > >>> you with the same limits as before.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------**** > >>> > >>> Datum: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:13:08 +0000**** > >>> > >>> Von: Sandy Sutherland <sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za> > <sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za>**** > >>> > >>> An: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" > <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>**** > >>> > >>> Betreff: RE: Freeze ICE tree to geometry?**** > >>> > >>> If you freeze the pointcloud - you can easily add an ice tree to it > and**** > >>> > >>> for e.g. just change the instance shape to another using that new ice > tree -**** > >>> > >>> the system is very powerful that way, the new ice tree just builds > upon the**** > >>> > >>> data frozen into the point cloud.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> S.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> _____________________________**** > >>> > >>> Sandy Sutherland**** > >>> > >>> Technical Supervisor**** > >>> > >>> sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za**** > >>> > >>> _____________________________**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ________________________________**** > >>> > >>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com**** > >>> > >>> [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Tim Crowson > [tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com]**** > >>> > >>> Sent: 11 July 2012 16:50**** > >>> > >>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com**** > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: Freeze ICE tree to geometry?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> I can, and I do eventually, but I don't have any control over the**** > >>> > >>> subcomponents in that frozen system. I can't model on top of it, > extract anything,**** > >>> > >>> or tweak anything. It's literally a locked pointcloud with > inaccessible geo**** > >>> > >>> in it.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Or is it? Is there some way of accessing the raw geo inside it that I > have**** > >>> > >>> overlooked?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> -Tim**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On 7/11/2012 9:39 AM, Ciaran Moloney wrote:**** > >>> > >>> Can't you just freeze the first scatter system? It should keep all > the**** > >>> > >>> particle attributes as they were. Or, drop an empty simulation region > into it,**** > >>> > >>> so the scatter system will only ever be evaluated once instead of > every**** > >>> > >>> frame.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Ciaran**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Tim Crowson**** > >>> > >>> <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> > <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>> wrote:**** > >>> > >>> It's actually nothing very interesting. In fact it's bad for > performance.**** > >>> > >>> I'm using Milan Vasek's (awesome) scatter tools to scatter small > spikes on**** > >>> > >>> a stick (somewhat like the small spikes on an evergreen frond). Only > about**** > >>> > >>> 100-150 of them. Then I parent the resulting pointcloud to the emitter > geo**** > >>> > >>> (the stick) and use that as the instance source for a second > scatter**** > >>> > >>> system. This gives me the control I want for both scatter systems. > However, if I**** > >>> > >>> manually model the equivalent of the first scatter system, and use > that as**** > >>> > >>> the instance source for the second system instead of another > Scatter,**** > >>> > >>> performance is far better. Which stands to reason.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Would someone smart kindly make an L-system in ICE?**** > >>> > >>> :)**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> -Tim C.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On 7/11/2012 8:11 AM, Mihail Djurev wrote:**** > >>> > >>> Hello SI list!**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Tim, could you share with us how you achieved that?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Mihail**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On 10.7.2012 г. 18:06 ч., Tim Crowson wrote:**** > >>> > >>> I'm rendering this with Mental Ray. I found a solution that lets me > render**** > >>> > >>> what I want without having to freeze it to geo. But it would still be > nice**** > >>> > >>> to know how to do it.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> -Tim**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> On 7/10/2012 12:45 AM, Sandy Sutherland wrote:**** > >>> > >>> What are you rendering with?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> S.**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> _____________________________**** > >>> > >>> Sandy Sutherland**** > >>> > >>> Technical Supervisor**** > >>> > >>> > sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za<mailto:sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za> > <sandy.sutherl...@triggerfish.co.za>**** > >>> > >>> _____________________________**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ________________________________**** > >>> > >>> > >>> From:**** > >>> > >>> > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>**** > >>> > >>> > [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] on behalf of > phil harbath**** > >>> > >>> [phil.harb...@jamination.com<mailto:phil.harb...@jamination.com> > <phil.harb...@jamination.com>]**** > >>> > >>> Sent: 10 July 2012 07:05**** > >>> > >>> To:**** > >>> > >>> > softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>**** > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: Freeze ICE tree to geometry?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> momentum instancer perhaps.**** > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message -----**** > >>> > >>> From: Tim Crowson<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> > <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>**** > >>> > >>> To:**** > >>> > >>> > softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>**** > >>> > >>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 6:24 PM**** > >>> > >>> Subject: Freeze ICE tree to geometry?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> I'm needing to freeze the results of my non-simulated ICE tree to > geometry**** > >>> > >>> so I can optimize its use in another ICE tree. (wanting to scatter**** > >>> > >>> something that was built by a scatter to beginwith).**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Concerns about geo density not-withstanding, is there a way to freeze > a**** > >>> > >>> non-simulated ICE tree to editable geometry?**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> --**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Tim Crowson**** > >>> > >>> Lead CG Artist**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc.**** > >>> > >>> 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214**** > >>> > >>> Ph 615.885.6801 | Fax 615.889.4768 |**** > >>> > >>> www.magneticdreams.com<http://www.magneticdreams.com> > <http://www.magneticdreams.com>**** > >>> > >>> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com> > <tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> --**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> --**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> --**** > >>> > >>> - Ciaran**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> --**** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> -- **** > >>> > >>> **** > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >> > >> > >
