Hehe, in Andy's defence: when your Softimage launcher command is 'xsiXX' it's a hard name to shift.
Of course, if it didn't crash as much we wouldn't have to type it in the terminal so often, so really we should blame Autodesk. On 13 September 2012 14:34, Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I find it strange that the Autodesk layoffs and Softimage’s future > blog refers to Softimage as "XSI" > > Just sayin' > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Andy Nicholas <a...@andynicholas.com>wrote: > >> +1000 Yep, well said Jules. The main reason we started up the London >> user group >> again was to try to inject a bit of positivity into the community. >> Clearly we're >> long overdue another meeting. >> >> Whoever it was who asked why AD wasn't putting out reassurances to >> customers >> about the future of Softimage, probably didn't see this statement from >> Chris >> Vienneau from the 3DPro list that I posted on our site last week: >> http://www.softimagecreatives.com/siclondon/?p=1204 >> >> The fact is that they're constantly telling us that it's full steam ahead >> with >> Softimage, but people keep on dismissing these comments as Autodesk spin. >> In >> such a situation, what are the guys at AD to do? Damned if they do, >> damned if >> they don't. What could AD possibly say (legally) that would convince you? >> >> There's also a certain amount of wilful misinterpretation going on over >> AD's >> motives which I really don't see as being helpful to anyone and certainly >> doesn't help to push forward the discussion in a productive way. >> >> All that aside, I agree that it would be good if someone at AD would take >> the >> responsibility to update the Softimage customer stories page. We do >> stacks of >> jobs with Softimage at The Mill every year, and I'd be very happy to help >> with >> getting some material together from our end. Someone at AD either just >> has to >> ask, or let me know who I need to talk to. The way I see it; if something >> bothers you, why not try to do something about it. >> >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> On 13 September 2012 at 09:12 Jules Stevenson <droolz...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I completely agree with this Marc. There is so much negative sentiment >> in this >> > thread that I'd be surprised if AD is still listening. Some of the >> folks there >> > are probably pretty proud to work for them and have a genuine interest >> in >> > Soft, so this thread is painful reading. I don't agree with the >> marketing of >> > soft at all, but I do still 'evangelize' the product, and will continue >> to do >> > so until there is something which for us as a studio works better (we >> jumped >> > from Maya to Soft about 5 years ago and haven't looked back since). >> > If AD were to sink this beautiful ship then so be it. Until that point >> for >> > the good of my sanity, my crew and my studio, I will continue to push >> the >> > usage of Softimage, and ignore a small graphic that is very hard to >> find (I'm >> > on the marketing lists for Max, Maya and Soft, and pretty much every >> other bit >> > of AD spam plus my reseller) and never personally received or saw it. >> > >> > There is little point in begrudging the AD employees that are doing >> what they >> > can do with what resources they have to keep soft out there - these are >> the >> > guys that are 'on our side'. Stating that the software is EOL is also >> > massively counter-productive, it's a lovely juicy soundbite to throw >> around >> > the office. Shit sticks, even if it's unfounded. >> > >> > The proof of commitment (or not) will be seen in the next release. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Jules >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Marc Brinkley < >> marc.brink...@microsoft.com >> > <mailto:marc.brink...@microsoft.com> > wrote: >> > > > So um, i just thinking that if I were ADSK and was listening to >> this >> > > > conversation >> > > >> > > My existing customers of the software believe the software is EOL >> > > >> > > My existing customers of the software are telling other customers >> not to >> > > bother instead of evangelizing the software. >> > > >> > > My customers decide not to believe me when i say we are continuing >> to >> > > develop the software even when several members of team directly say >> it. >> > > >> > > If I were in their shoes, what do you suppose I would be thinking. >> Seems >> > > like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. >> > > >> > > Not directed to anyone specifically. But if we dont believe they >> why >> > > should they. >> > > >> > > All things will end eventually, sure, and I am tried of fighting >> an up >> > > hill battle, sure. But until I get a letter specifically stating EOL >> and >> > > here are my side grade (or ahem, down grade) options to other >> software, I >> > > will keep on using it. >> > > >> > > :D >> > > >> > > Sent from my car while driving >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------! 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>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > From: Rob Chapman >> > > Sent: 9/12/2012 1:13 PM >> > > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> > > <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >> > > Subject: Re: In case you missed it.. >> > > >> > > So Maurice, >> > > A brave effort with your rhetoric but sadly the results you >> achieved are >> > > letting you down. It is exactly what we did not expect or were used >> to >> > > before you are your crew took it upon yourselves to remarket Softimage >> > > within the given framework of M&E apps at AD. Do you think what you >> have >> > > done has improved things for the existing Softimage user base? can you >> > > account for how Softimage has less penetration now in the market as a >> fully >> > > featured Application to base an entire pipeline off** and has much >> less >> > > 'perceived' value than before you began your current campaign? >> > > >> > > bravo! didnt you do well!? I believe you have failed quite >> miserably at >> > > your job and should most definitely be more respectful than 'be happy >> with >> > > possible increased sales and deal with it' to those whose value as >> > > professionals within this industry are greatly diminished than they >> were 4 >> > > years ago. Are you at all surprised that those you have sacrificed >> to the >> > > greater good that is Maya don't want any further business with >> Autodesk? >> > > >> > > >> > > **where I work the studio has many hundreds of commercials,3 short >> > > movies with countless awards and one was bafta nominated this year - >> all >> > > made with this measly particle plugin and not a single Maya or Max in >> sight. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 12 September 2012 20:41, Maurice Patel < >> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com >> > > <mailto:maurice.pa...@autodesk.com> > wrote: >> > > > > > Well, we have said that we are committed to developing and >> > > > > > marketing Softimage. It might not be exactly in the way you >> > > > > > expect but that commitment has been explicitly stated by >> myself >> > > > > > and others. The discussion has been about our tactics and >> why we >> > > > > > do things the way we do. >> > > > >> > > > Maurice Patel >> > > > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 <tel:514%20954-7134> >> > > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> > > > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto: >> > > > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> > > > <mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> ] On Behalf Of >> Daniel H >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:59 PM >> > > > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> > > > <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >> > > > Subject: Re: In case you missed it.. >> > > > Re: "We are very well aware and I and my team work hard to do >> the >> > > > most we can with the resources we have." - Maurice Patel >> > > > >> > > > Seriously Maurice... you have any-time access to "freely" speak >> > > > directly to the main vein of the SI community. Does it cost AD >> anything to >> > > > make a simple text statement of confidence on a list, blog, or >> forum? Is >> > > > Autodesk really committed to the future and continuing development >> of >> > > > Softimage? Is Softimage just being used as acquired tech to be >> robbed >> > > > from? It's ok if it's the later, although we won't transition over >> to >> > > > Maya, we'll just counter by transitioning to Houdini. >> > > > >> > > > Do you really want my continued business Maurice? Does Autodesk >> > > > really want to keep my business? Should we just get it over with >> and start >> > > > giving our hard-earned money to SideFX? 3D software isn't cheap ya >> know. >> > > > What would you like us to do? Where's a free statement or two of >> > > > "confidence" to keep us investing in Softimage? >> > > > >> > > > Daniel >> > > > VFXM >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > -- > > Best Regards, > * Stephen P. Davidson** > **(954) 552-7956 > * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com > > <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> > >
