Just wildly guessing here but since renderers need to update e.g. the Render 
Region when values are changed in the scene, which sometimes fails when the 
built-in mechanisms are used, I suspect both Vray and Arnold are making heavy 
use of some custom OnValueChanged events. Maybe this could cause problems when 
used excessively and/or or with deep hierarchies?



You need more than a trivial scene.
You need a non-trivial op stack, and some connections between different
objects, ...
I didn't try to repro from scratch.


On 01/02/2013 12:33 PM, Rob Chapman wrote:
so what are the steps to easily reproduce?

as Arnold installed as workgroup here (amongst many other things)
animate a cube,  set animation handles 0
no crash

get character > XSI man > armoured
set randomly various keyframes
grab all animation curves
set handles to 0
no crash.

need more data as Im getting harangued on twitter for this :)





On 1 February 2013 16:07, Manny Papamanos <manny.papama...@autodesk.com> wrote:
Hi, I'll will take a look as soon as something is logged.
The AE works a lot better when on an 'Aero' desktop theme btw.
Let us know.


Manny Papamanos
Autodesk 3D Graphics Specialist : Softimage | MotionBuilder | Mudbox


From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of adrian wyer
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 11:03 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Fcurve editor crashing soft

but having to drop out of the workgroup every time you want to edit your 
animation?????

can we have a patch please Autodesk?

kthanksby

a

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 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Kowalski
Sent: 01 February 2013 15:58
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Fcurve editor crashing soft

YAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Am 01.02.2013 um 16:50 schrieb adrian wyer 
<adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com<mailto:adrian.w...@fluid-pictures.com>>:

thank god we finally got to the bottom of this, it's been driving people
nuts here!!!

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Hi

I can reproduce the freeze with either Arnold or V-Ray, so I'm logging
an issue with Autodesk.

Thanks

Stephen
Senior Support Engineer
Solid Angle



On 01/02/2013 5:10 AM, Sebastian Kowalski wrote:
AAANNNNDD,
seems to happen to vray to.. if somebody can confirm a similar behavior
while using 3delight we can say it had something to with render support in
xsi ;)


Am 01.02.2013 um 11:08 schrieb Sebastian Kowalski 
<l...@sekow.com<mailto:l...@sekow.com>>:

hey chris, for now its sitoa 2.5.0 and softimage 2012. but i have that
kind of glitches for a long time.

sebastian

Am 01.02.2013 um 02:42 schrieb Chris Chia 
<chris.c...@autodesk.com<mailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com>>:

Sebastian, what version of XSI n Arnold are you using?


On 31 Jan, 2013, at 11:18 PM, "Sebastian Kowalski"
<l...@sekow.com<mailto:l...@sekow.com><mailto:l...@sekow.com>> wrote:

yep, i am having this problems for a long time. for couple of soft
releases. but i never could prove that with a proper repro scene. maybe now
its the time to investigate (solids, soft devs?)

sebastian

Am 31.01.2013 um 16:06 schrieb Stephen Blair
<stephenrbl...@gmail.com<mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com><mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Matt

I'm pretty sure I unloaded every plugin item except the renderer itself,
and the freeze still happened.
So, it's either the renderer plugin, or the renderer integration
framework in Softimage.

Thanks

Stephen


On 31/01/2013 9:42 AM, Matt Lowery wrote:
Spot on guys! Thanks! We are using an Arnold work group and
disconnecting from it does solve this issue. ( amazing! The renderer would
have been the last place I would have looked to fix this.)

We're currently looking into the most effective work around for this
little chest nut. Seems unloading the Arnold plugins from the work group is
enough to set things straight. But does anyone know if it's a specific
Arnold plug in that's causing this? Is it Arnold lights? Arnold renderer?
Arnold shaders? Or do we need to unload them all?

Thanks again.
m@


On 31/01/2013 13:30, Stephen Blair wrote:
I have seen a case of this before. The entry of numeric values in the
fcurve editor froze Softimage, but only when a certain renderer was
installed.

I had a repro scene from a customer, and the only way I could fix it was
to freeze part of the op stack.

On 31/01/2013 8:19 AM, Stephen Blair wrote:
What renderer are  you using?

On 31/01/2013 7:35 AM, Matt Lowery wrote:
Any attempt to enter a numeric value for anything in the editor freezes
soft.




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