well there is this IDE that you can use right out of Softimage,
# This loads the debugger module...
import pywin.debugger as dbg
# This launches the GUI:
dbg.brk()
but there are two problems:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM, jo benayoun <jobenay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> IDEs provide code completion and code analysis by actually having a
> backend specific to the language the editor is set to. Thats actually one
> of the main difference between a text editor (sublime) and an IDE
> (eclipse). The editor does not just consider the text as a suite of words
> but as a language and so understand what you write.
>
> To implement such thing, you will need basically to do the job of the
> python engine (minus compilation/interpreter step). Meaning, use an ast
> generator and write python specifics.
>
> The actual parser generator used internally by the CPython implementation
> is exposed in the std library under the name pgen2 (do a grep for seeing
> its usage). Because this is just a parser generator, you will need then a
> way to get and manipulate the ast the parser will generate for ya.
> fortunately, there is a bunch of modules that provide exactly what you need
> (ast, keyword, ...) that let you go further in the code exploration.
> (pgen2 and parser/ast/keyword/... are two separate things with two
> different usages, dont mix them up)
>
> Thats about python, for the softimage libraries, you're on the right way :)
> --jon
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> 2013/1/31 Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com>
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>> I've generated autocompletions, but it seems (and kinda makes sense) that
>> I cannot really know what class someone is coding for to show the methods
>> filtered by that class alone, so in its current state I will autocomplete
>> both global commands AND all methods. That said, for methods I put "[blabla
>> class]" after them so you know which one it's for. I still think it's
>> useful, but I wish it could be better.
>>
>> Anyone have any bright ideas for somehow knowing what class someone is
>> coding for? (...because Sublime won't load Softimage's Python environment
>> to actually know what is what, what with the dynamic dispatching and all.)
>>
>> By the way, once you tab to choose one, I autocomplete all the arguments
>> as a "snippet" and you can tab through the named arguments to write your
>> own variables or delete them.
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Alan Fregtman
>> <alan.fregt...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Okay... Getting somewhere!
>>>
>>> import sysimport os.pathfrom win32com.client import makepy
>>>
>>> tlbs =
>>> ['/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/Converter.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/LightRig.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/XSIDial.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/dotXSI_ie.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/dsauto.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/enums.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/ophelper.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/si3dobjectmodel.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/si3dobjectmodel10.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/siobjectmodel.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/xsiutils.tlb']
>>> for path in tlbs:
>>> baseFolder = r'/path/somewhere/to/save/pyfiles/'
>>> sys.argv = ["makepy", "-o", "%s/%s.py" % (baseFolder,
>>> os.path.basename(path).split('.')[0]), path]
>>> makepy.main()
>>>
>>>
>>> This gets me some files I can introspect for methods and such.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reviving this old thread out of interest...
>>>>
>>>> So, with that sample code, we can introspect predefined global objects
>>>> like Application and XSIUtils. That's cool, but for example, another object
>>>> type like... "Parameter".... that's a class but I can't create it. I can't
>>>> do win32com.client.Dispatch("Parameter") and
>>>> XSIFactory.CreateObject("Parameter") won't work either.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way I can somehow create the object on the fly, knowing
>>>> its class type, some other way so that I can query its methods and
>>>> properties?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ps: Raff, could you elaborate how you AL guys got your introspection
>>>> going for non-predefined globals?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Andy Nicholas <a...@andynicholas.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You guys should check this out. It might give you a good start...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://xsisupport.com/2012/10/06/saturday-snippet-getting-a-list-of-properties-and-methods-with-python-introspection/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04 January 2013 at 00:54 jo benayoun <jobenay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > The Softimage API (object model) is not visible because its all
>>>>> about dynamic
>>>>> > dispatching at runtime. This is like thinking your editor will be
>>>>> natively
>>>>> > enough smart to detect attributes you would add dynamically when
>>>>> overriding
>>>>> > the __getattr__ method of a class.
>>>>> > Happily for us the dispatching is cached somewhere and even
>>>>> introspectable by
>>>>> > using the pythoncom/pywin32 API. With a little effort and sticking
>>>>> with
>>>>> > python, one would have no problem in developing a plugin for this
>>>>> text editor
>>>>> > specially if sublime API is as convenient as it is claimed. The
>>>>> first step is
>>>>> > to learn how to use correctly the pywin32 package and what it does
>>>>> under the
>>>>> > hood to fully understand what the 'ultimate' solution could be.
>>>>> > --jo
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013/1/3 César Sáez <cesa...@gmail.com <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com> >
>>>>> > > > You're right, sublime/any-other-editor can't see that
>>>>> softimage
>>>>> > > > variables.
>>>>> > > If you're using 'Application' (or any 'implicit variable' like
>>>>> that) your
>>>>> > > script will fail on import, sipyutils module (or your own version
>>>>> of it) is
>>>>> > > the way to go IMHO.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Alan Fregtman <
>>>>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com
>>>>> > > <mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > But it won't be able to find global XSI objects just
>>>>> like that,
>>>>> > > > > > right? "Application" is defined by the axscript module,
>>>>> but I
>>>>> > > > > > feel like SI internally dispatches it in a way I don't
>>>>> think
>>>>> > > > > > Sublime could "see" it.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM, César Sáez <
>>>>> cesa...@gmail.com
>>>>> > > > <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > You have to add your environment paths to the
>>>>> 'env' tag in
>>>>> > > > > > > > your python.sublime-build config file, this way
>>>>> if you have
>>>>> > > > > > > > a shortcuts module it will instrospect it.
>>>>> > > > > El 03/01/2013 17:34, "Gene Crucean" <
>>>>> emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
>>>>> > > > > <mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> > escribió:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Hehe I was trying to figure out the same
>>>>> thing.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Alan Fregtman
>>>>> > > > > > <alan.fregt...@gmail.com <mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I use SublimeCodeIntel too but it's
>>>>> not aware
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > of XSI globals like Application,
>>>>> XSIUtils and
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > so on, so it won't introspect them.
>>>>> > > > > > > How would one hack it to be more aware of such?
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM, César Sáez
>>>>> > > > > > > <cesa...@gmail.com <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SublimeCodeIntel does a great
>>>>> job
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > autocompleting python modules
>>>>> and import
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statements (via introspoction,
>>>>> works with
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your own modules too), it's not
>>>>> softimage
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific but helps alot.
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > Another cool package is the SublimeLinter,
>>>>> it
>>>>> > > > > > > > highlight potential errors in your code (IDE-like). I
>>>>> have no idea
>>>>> > > > > > > > how far I was from PEP8 until I start using it, now my
>>>>> code is way
>>>>> > > > > > > > cleaner and easy to the eyes :)
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Raffaele
>>>>> Fragapane
>>>>> > > > > > > > <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com <mailto:
>>>>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>
>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You actually can
>>>>> introspect
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recursively almost the
>>>>> entirety of
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the scripting API and
>>>>> generate a
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dummy set of libraries
>>>>> from there.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That will offer
>>>>> autocompletion in
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most IDEs.
>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > We've had that running here in AL for a
>>>>> while
>>>>> > > > > > > > > thanks to Aloys' efforts a long time ago and it's
>>>>> worked without
>>>>> > > > > > > > > a hitch for years.
>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Gene
>>>>> Crucean
>>>>> > > > > > > > > <emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
>>>>> > > > > > > > > <mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be
>>>>> completely
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bitchin if it
>>>>> autocompleted
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the entire sdk...
>>>>> and not
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just simple
>>>>> commonly used
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > snippets.
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