wow...hot key to send mail...must find and delete <lol>
okay the two problems:
1) it is not awesome like Sublime ;)
2) it autocompletes/intellisenses in Japanese (which is fine if you can
read Japanese ;P )
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Eric Turman <i.anima...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well there is this IDE that you can use right out of Softimage,
>
> # This loads the debugger module...
> import pywin.debugger as dbg
>
> # This launches the GUI:
> dbg.brk()
>
> but there are two problems:
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM, jo benayoun <jobenay...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> IDEs provide code completion and code analysis by actually having a
>> backend specific to the language the editor is set to. Thats actually one
>> of the main difference between a text editor (sublime) and an IDE
>> (eclipse). The editor does not just consider the text as a suite of words
>> but as a language and so understand what you write.
>>
>> To implement such thing, you will need basically to do the job of the
>> python engine (minus compilation/interpreter step). Meaning, use an ast
>> generator and write python specifics.
>>
>> The actual parser generator used internally by the CPython implementation
>> is exposed in the std library under the name pgen2 (do a grep for seeing
>> its usage). Because this is just a parser generator, you will need then a
>> way to get and manipulate the ast the parser will generate for ya.
>> fortunately, there is a bunch of modules that provide exactly what you need
>> (ast, keyword, ...) that let you go further in the code exploration.
>> (pgen2 and parser/ast/keyword/... are two separate things with two
>> different usages, dont mix them up)
>>
>> Thats about python, for the softimage libraries, you're on the right way
>> :)
>> --jon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/31 Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> I've generated autocompletions, but it seems (and kinda makes sense)
>>> that I cannot really know what class someone is coding for to show the
>>> methods filtered by that class alone, so in its current state I will
>>> autocomplete both global commands AND all methods. That said, for methods I
>>> put "[blabla class]" after them so you know which one it's for. I still
>>> think it's useful, but I wish it could be better.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any bright ideas for somehow knowing what class someone is
>>> coding for? (...because Sublime won't load Softimage's Python environment
>>> to actually know what is what, what with the dynamic dispatching and all.)
>>>
>>> By the way, once you tab to choose one, I autocomplete all the arguments
>>> as a "snippet" and you can tab through the named arguments to write your
>>> own variables or delete them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay... Getting somewhere!
>>>>
>>>> import sysimport os.pathfrom win32com.client import makepy
>>>>
>>>> tlbs =
>>>> ['/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/Converter.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/LightRig.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/XSIDial.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/dotXSI_ie.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/dsauto.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/enums.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/ophelper.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/si3dobjectmodel.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/si3dobjectmodel10.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/siobjectmodel.tlb','/path/to/Softimage_2013_SP1/Application/bin/xsiutils.tlb']
>>>> for path in tlbs:
>>>> baseFolder = r'/path/somewhere/to/save/pyfiles/'
>>>> sys.argv = ["makepy", "-o", "%s/%s.py" % (baseFolder,
>>>> os.path.basename(path).split('.')[0]), path]
>>>> makepy.main()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This gets me some files I can introspect for methods and such.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Alan Fregtman <
>>>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reviving this old thread out of interest...
>>>>>
>>>>> So, with that sample code, we can introspect predefined global objects
>>>>> like Application and XSIUtils. That's cool, but for example, another
>>>>> object
>>>>> type like... "Parameter".... that's a class but I can't create it. I can't
>>>>> do win32com.client.Dispatch("Parameter") and
>>>>> XSIFactory.CreateObject("Parameter") won't work either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way I can somehow create the object on the fly, knowing
>>>>> its class type, some other way so that I can query its methods and
>>>>> properties?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ps: Raff, could you elaborate how you AL guys got your introspection
>>>>> going for non-predefined globals?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Andy Nicholas
>>>>> <a...@andynicholas.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You guys should check this out. It might give you a good start...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://xsisupport.com/2012/10/06/saturday-snippet-getting-a-list-of-properties-and-methods-with-python-introspection/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04 January 2013 at 00:54 jo benayoun <jobenay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The Softimage API (object model) is not visible because its all
>>>>>> about dynamic
>>>>>> > dispatching at runtime. This is like thinking your editor will be
>>>>>> natively
>>>>>> > enough smart to detect attributes you would add dynamically when
>>>>>> overriding
>>>>>> > the __getattr__ method of a class.
>>>>>> > Happily for us the dispatching is cached somewhere and even
>>>>>> introspectable by
>>>>>> > using the pythoncom/pywin32 API. With a little effort and sticking
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> > python, one would have no problem in developing a plugin for this
>>>>>> text editor
>>>>>> > specially if sublime API is as convenient as it is claimed. The
>>>>>> first step is
>>>>>> > to learn how to use correctly the pywin32 package and what it does
>>>>>> under the
>>>>>> > hood to fully understand what the 'ultimate' solution could be.
>>>>>> > --jo
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2013/1/3 César Sáez <cesa...@gmail.com <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > > You're right, sublime/any-other-editor can't see that
>>>>>> softimage
>>>>>> > > > variables.
>>>>>> > > If you're using 'Application' (or any 'implicit variable' like
>>>>>> that) your
>>>>>> > > script will fail on import, sipyutils module (or your own version
>>>>>> of it) is
>>>>>> > > the way to go IMHO.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Alan Fregtman <
>>>>>> alan.fregt...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > <mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > But it won't be able to find global XSI objects just
>>>>>> like that,
>>>>>> > > > > > right? "Application" is defined by the axscript
>>>>>> module, but I
>>>>>> > > > > > feel like SI internally dispatches it in a way I don't
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> > > > > > Sublime could "see" it.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM, César Sáez <
>>>>>> cesa...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > > <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > You have to add your environment paths to the
>>>>>> 'env' tag in
>>>>>> > > > > > > > your python.sublime-build config file, this way
>>>>>> if you have
>>>>>> > > > > > > > a shortcuts module it will instrospect it.
>>>>>> > > > > El 03/01/2013 17:34, "Gene Crucean" <
>>>>>> emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > > > <mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> > escribió:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Hehe I was trying to figure out the same
>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Alan Fregtman
>>>>>> > > > > > <alan.fregt...@gmail.com <mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I use SublimeCodeIntel too but it's
>>>>>> not aware
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > of XSI globals like Application,
>>>>>> XSIUtils and
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > so on, so it won't introspect them.
>>>>>> > > > > > > How would one hack it to be more aware of such?
>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:19 PM, César Sáez
>>>>>> > > > > > > <cesa...@gmail.com <mailto:cesa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SublimeCodeIntel does a great
>>>>>> job
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > autocompleting python modules
>>>>>> and import
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > statements (via introspoction,
>>>>>> works with
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your own modules too), it's
>>>>>> not softimage
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific but helps alot.
>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > Another cool package is the SublimeLinter,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> > > > > > > > highlight potential errors in your code (IDE-like). I
>>>>>> have no idea
>>>>>> > > > > > > > how far I was from PEP8 until I start using it, now my
>>>>>> code is way
>>>>>> > > > > > > > cleaner and easy to the eyes :)
>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Raffaele
>>>>>> Fragapane
>>>>>> > > > > > > > <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com <mailto:
>>>>>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You actually can
>>>>>> introspect
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recursively almost the
>>>>>> entirety of
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the scripting API and
>>>>>> generate a
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dummy set of libraries
>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That will offer
>>>>>> autocompletion in
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most IDEs.
>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > We've had that running here in AL for
>>>>>> a while
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > thanks to Aloys' efforts a long time ago and it's
>>>>>> worked without
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > a hitch for years.
>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Gene
>>>>>> Crucean
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > <emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > <mailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bitchin if it
>>>>>> autocompleted
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the entire sdk...
>>>>>> and not
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just simple
>>>>>> commonly used
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > snippets.
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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>>>>>> > > > > >
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