Just another Windows 8 opinion, OT:
I'm using it for a few months now, and overall I'm quite happy with it.
To me, the metro screen - which IS the new start menu - looks fresh and
modern. Animation, simple graphics, colors... people have different tastes.
The no-nonsense style of the desktop is a nice thing, too.
The boot process became extremely efficient. Use the "save energy"
shutdown option to keep all applications open, and it won't get any faster.
The RMB-menu in the bottom left corner, by the way, is a very good
collection of most of the system tools you will ever need.
The charms menu and that stuff is a failure in big parts, though -
optimizing the new UI is something to expect from the next version.
That's simple.
There's more to Windows 8 than meets the eye also.
Regarding the touch feature:
True, noone using a desktop machine will seriously start finger-fumbling
on the monitor, but the touch feature exists to allow Windows to be a
unified system on every possible device, not because you are expected to
use it on workstations (which ain't dead, of course). If you don't need
it, don't use it.
I'm with Raphaele regarding painting/navigating on touch devices, it's
the real thing. My hopes now are on the upcoming Wacom mobile tablet
(Had a 20" Cintiq and sold it, not because because it wasn't ergonomic).
Never had any compatibility troubles so far with the stuff I use.
Am 07.05.2013 07:59, schrieb Raffaele Fragapane:
Ever the extremist :)
Touch isn't a replacement to other devices, it extends it.
If you never tried painting with a touch sensitive interface, you
won't understand.
Turning the canvas around, orbiting, zooming, resizing the mouse and
so on are amazingly intuitive and smooth.
Scrolling, moving icons etc, all activities that suffer for
cosiderable lag or unnatural gestures right now, can be made fluid and
unambiguous.
But anyway, it doesn't seem like this discussion would go anywhere.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sam <sbowl...@cox.net
<mailto:sbowl...@cox.net>> wrote:
I did a lot of reading on the web when windows 8 first came out
and I saw a lot of people complaining about programs and games not
running correctly. I just saw an article recently where setting a
game (don’t remember which one) on its highest setting would cause
everything to disappear under windows 8. IE 10 has all kinds of
compatibility problems (I’m one of those freaks who like IE). I
tried renewing mudbox with it and the Autodesk web site kept
telling me that there would be a late charge because my
subscription had expired. After contacting tech support and going
back and forth with them for a bit I finally figured out it was
IE10 causing the problem and that Firefox and IE9 didn’t have the
problem. I also ran across tons of web sites that will no longer
load or display correctly with IE10.
As for touch on a desktop…. Why? Last thing I would ever want is
my monitor to look as bad as my cell phone does with fingerprints
all over it and leaning over your desk to touch your screen for 8
to 10 hours a day will just ruin your shoulders and back.
Honestly, there it very little that I have seen that a touch
screen can do better than a standard keyboard and mouse/tablet.
The whole reason for the tablet/cell phone interface is because
you can’t use a keyboard/mouse on them. This whole idea of the
desktop computer being dead is just silly.
*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf Of
*Raffaele Fragapane
*Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2013 5:00 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation editors
That said, Sam, I don't know where you read about all these
instability and driver problems, but I would reconsider.
Any well clued people I know using it finds it responsive, stable,
and generally a well polished product, with only the UI being
non-sensical without a touch device.
Given touch sensitive monitors will no doubt become the standard
even for desk-bound products at some point, I can't say it's a bad
move on MS' end, just they should have found a better large
surface alternative when they run that UI on monitors 22" and up,
but you can always switch it to a more familiar mode if you really
can't deal with it.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
<luceri...@gmail.com <mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
the start menu has always been unusable, imho - you never know
under which folder things will be hidding (company name, product
name, suite name, random other name), there is too much crap in
there and it got even less usable with XP auto hiding. this is
just legacy stuff, crap we learn to be expert at using. what's
important is that Microsoft still supports keyboard shortcuts and
search
Le 2013-05-05 14:04, "Sam" <sbowl...@cox.net
<mailto:sbowl...@cox.net>> a écrit :
People have good reason to hate windows 8. Because the metro
cell phone menu is useless on a desktop PC. Windows 8 is even
more than Vista, in fact more people are still using Vista
than are using windows 8. I spent about a week with windows 8
and it’s really the most terrible UI I’ve ever used. I can’t
see how anyone would think a grid of multi-sized (horridly
colored) cubes that takes up your whole screen is easier to
search than an alphabetized text list (with related items
grouped in folders) that only takes up a small portion of your
screen.
Microsoft should have known better than to do this because
it’s obvious that people do not like the metro interface. All
you have to do is look at their cell phone market share. They
tried to make their cell phone interface more popular by
sticking it on their new OS, but instead, they made their new
OS as popular as their cell phones…
Not even going to get into the other problems, like
compatibility, the apps interface and the driver problems I’ve
read about. This is one place where they really should have
copied apple. On a mac you can completely ignore all the cell
phone crap they added.
*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On Behalf
Of *Rob Wuijster
*Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:27 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in animation
editors
Me neither, but apparently new stuff in Windows always leads
to very extreme opinions.
Just look at Win8 and the 'removal' of the start menu. Some
people will almost go into cardiac arrest just talking about
it. ;-)
Rob
\/-------------\/----------------\/
On 4-5-2013 0:13, Sam wrote:
I never understood all the hate for Aero.
*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On
Behalf Of *Rob Wuijster
*Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2013 6:29 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Subject:* Re: Aw: RE: Graphics update problem in
animation editors
Most apps rely on the default behavior of Windows itself.
So by turning off Aero, you may introduce unwanted
behavior in an app..... ;-)
Rob
\/-------------\/----------------\/
On 3-5-2013 15:22, Leo Quensel wrote:
I have the same problem all the time. I hate Aero and
don't want it. Why should we have to switch it on to
prevent bugs from happening?
Leo
*Gesendet:* Freitag, 03. Mai 2013 um 15:03 Uhr
*Von:* "Sean Donnelly" <sean.donne...@autodesk.com>
<mailto:sean.donne...@autodesk.com>
*An:* "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
<softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Betreff:* RE: Graphics update problem in animation
editors
Do you have Window Aero turned on? It should be.
Sean
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Yargici
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:43 AM
To: Morten Bartholdy; softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: Graphics update problem in animation editors
I get it all the time in the Render Tree and ICE Tree,
it can be really infuriating.
DAN
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Morten Bartholdy
<x...@colorshopvfx.dk
<mailto:x...@colorshopvfx.dk><mailto:x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
<mailto:x...@colorshopvfx.dk>> wrote:
I am experiencing an annoying problem with lacking
update in animation editors and other curve editors. I
can select (tag) a key and it will not show the tagged
point - I have to move or resize the window to force
an update. Sometimes only part of the window updates
until I move or resize, making it difficult to work
with any type of curve editor.
I am on Soft 2013 SP1 Win7 x64, Geforce GTX 570 driver
version 311.06.
I am guessing this is not a bug, merely a driver
issue, so I am curious to know if others have
experienced something similar and if not, which
version drivers you use?
Thanks
Morten
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6292
<tel:3162%2F6292> - Release Date: 05/02/13
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295
<tel:3162%2F6295> - Release Date: 05/03/13
--
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it!
Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
--
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship
it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
