yes it is S&H but soooooo old and never updated with a single thing so...
it is also not S&H anymore :)
it is shame that not a single developer is assigned to make new usable hair
system inside SI but everything is left to couple ICE guys around that
makes something on their own hands....


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Nick Angus <n...@altvfx.com> wrote:

>  From memory, Soft hair is Shave and a Haircut, I am pretty sure they
> bought the rights to use it from Joe (or at least pay a royalty for the
> rights)****
>
> ** **
>
> N****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Sebastien Sterling
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 August 2013 10:27 PM
>
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: Maya Xgen****
>
> ** **
>
> A character fx td once told me that S&H looks a lot like softimages old
> hair solution, he also sells a plugin that seems to do the same thing as
> the secondary shape modelling mode, only you can actually sculpt
> correctives using a brush.****
>
> Poor Peregrine, i guess this kinda screws Yeti, any innovation that might
> stand them compared to xGen is countered by the fact that Xgen is shipped
> with maya and they still are not allowed to sell in America or risk the
> wrath of Joe Alter...****
>
> ** **
>
> On 11 August 2013 13:38, Raffaele Fragapane <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Oh and if you're ever curious:
>
> http://gametimeip.com/2011/10/07/inventor-of-patented-cgi-technique-runs-to-court-after-a-walt-disney-runaround/
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Read the comments, not the article, they are a borderline unprecedented
> mix of disclosure and quiet, indignant rage.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:****
>
> Of course he does, particularly with xGen going commercial.****
>
> He sued Disney over it and won an undisclosed settlement (it's not on
> record whether it's royalties or a flat payment).****
>
>
> http://patentexaminer.org/2011/10/disney-sued-for-infringing-virtual-hair-raising-patent/
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Nick Angus <n...@altvfx.com> wrote:****
>
> I am sure he still makes money from it with that obscure little patent he
> holds...****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 7:04 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Maya Xgen****
>
> It beats having to pay Joe Alter for the privilege of having decent
> grooming tools...
>
> the xgen demo looks to be *ahem* a cut above shave's tools. (sorry)
>
> cheers,
> chrisg
>
> On 10 August 2013 15:22, Eric Lampi <ericla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This just came across my feed on Facebook. It's so damned annoying to
> > see them make a huge deal out of this kind of pedestrian crap. OK the
> > hair stuff was nice, but is anyone really that impressed with a hair
> > styling tool? Exactly how often do you say to yourself "Oh no!! How am
> > I ever going to style the hair on these ALL of these characters!!??"****
>
>
>
> ****
>
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>
> --
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!****
>
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>

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