The beautiful irony being, we won't have a say either way ;)

On 24 March 2014 03:58, Raffaele Fragapane <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yeah, except that at that point there would be no viable commercial
> software left in the world to animate on that could be legally used and
> bought seats for and have ready to go in a reasonable amount of time and
> without training hundreds of people on it.
> It would be a lot worse than now and it'd take years to catch up to such a
> nuclear winter scenario.
>
> I mean, it's great that everybody is loving Houdini, Modo and all that,
> but if both Maya and Soft were to have no seats you could purchase for
> offline use next year a very large number of places would be screwed. The
> competition isn't anywhere near being able to replace either without an
> inordinate amount of work going into re-doing, re-wrapping, and
> re-training... yet again for those coming from Soft.
>
> No, thank you, I'd rather we get another three or four years before AD
> nukes itself taking a large chunk of the userbase with them if they really
> plan on the market equivalent of a suicide bombing. Sure, let them, but
> free the area of crowds first, please :p
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I say bring it, bring the cloud, let them bring it and let it be the
>> worst most singular monumental blunder in the recorded history of
>> client/provider inter dynamics.
>>
>> A fuck up of such magnitude it can be viewed from space.
>>
>> Sure we'd have to get creative for one year maybe two, but it's no
>> difference to what is happening now.
>>
>> And when the dust settles maybe they finally learn their lesson, or they
>> go extinct.
>>
>> personally am rooting for the latter.
>>
>>
>> On 24 March 2014 02:45, Raffaele Fragapane 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> If anybody moves a software I rely on to deliver a movie to the cloud
>>> with no alternatives there are plenty lives at stakes. Those of anybody
>>> around me in a 1Km radius for a start, and then several others after that.
>>>
>>>  I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are
>>> looking for more maintenance fees, I can tell you I don't have money. But
>>> what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired
>>> over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like
>>> you. If you let my software work offline, that'll be the end of it. I will
>>> not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for
>>> you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
>>>
>>> P.S.
>>> If you haven't seen Taken you might be inclined to take the above more
>>> seriously than it should be :p
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Ed Manning <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Crap. Hate phone buttons.
>>>>
>>>> Between a $200m bldg and a $200m movie.
>>>>
>>>> In the former, there's little or no proprietary IP.  If one critical
>>>> detail fails to be communicated, in the worst case people die.
>>>>
>>>> In the latter, no ones' lives are at stake but if one critical detail
>>>> goes to the wrong person, there may be huge repercussions financially, but
>>>> no ones life is at stake.
>>>>
>>>> So there are very different needs for information sharing.
>>>>
>>>> Despite superficial similarities, making a movie or TV spot with
>>>> digital tools and designing and building a physical structure with digital
>>>> tools are fundamentally different and the idea that there could be some
>>>> magical cloud solution that fits both would appear to be wishful thinking
>>>> at best, snake oil at worst.
>>>>
>>>> In the long run, I just don't see what AD can do for the M & E world
>>>> with this attitude.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014, Ed Manning <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think or hope the cloud issue will be settled by the contract
>>>>> lawyers for the film studios and advertisers.  There's a big difference
>>>>> between putting up a $100M building and making
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
>>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>

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