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On 17-10-2014 16:04, olivier jeannel wrote:
While you're at this, did you find a decent font manager ?
Something that might get PC close to a Mac ?
Just asking ...


Le 17/10/2014 13:05, Paul Griswold a écrit :
I ended up spending my entire evening with my WinPro 8 tablet in front of me trying out all the various image organizing packages to try to figure out the good from the bad. Here's what I've learned...

The first thing I will warn everyone is, always always always choose Advanced Install or Custom Install with this stuff. Even stuff from Sourceforge is going to try to sneak some toolbar or system optimizer into the installer if you aren't careful. (I was really surprised Sourceforge is doing that kind of crap these days!)

The good:

FastStone Image Viewer - It's freeware and does a great job. I don't like how it handles favorites - a dropdown menu versus an explorer-like list. It also won't create folder thumbnails recursively, so you only get folder thumbnails on folders that contain images, not other folders. It's fairly configurable, didn't crash at all, and has no problems with network folders. Absolutely worth a shot.

ACDSee Pro 8 - I honestly haven't touched ACDSee since probably when Windows NT 3.51 was out. I was shocked at how far it's come. It's a very nice piece of kit. Certainly the most professional-oriented package I tested. I didn't have a lot of time to try it out, but it played video fine, had no issues with the network, had plenty of configuration options and looks like it'll do everything I need. Unfortunately it did completely lock up while I was trying to change it's temp folder and it never recovered - I had to kill the task & restart it.

Picasa - It's serviceable. Much more oriented towards snapshots and home movies, but it's functional and free. You have to import folders, you can't navigate, but it hooks into all of Google's service, which can be good or bad depending on your viewpoint.

Zoner Photo Studio 17 - I was almost completely wrong about this one. It's very flexible, stable, and rock solid. It did not crash once. It has some pro-sumer things about it that still give me the vibe that they're going to sell my email address to spammers, but that's just a feeling. I would say it's my #2 choice at the moment and could be #1.


The bad / ugly:

I didn't realize there was now not only XnView, but also XnViewMP. I believe MP is the replacement, since it's at v0.69 at the moment. Unfortunately it suffers from the same problem as XnView - when you point it to a network folder that contains a lot of images, it crashes. XnViewMP looked like it would be the solution to organizing everything. It supports a ton of file formats and has some great organizing features, but it's completely unstable.

Pictomio came highly rated, yet it crashed the moment I tried to launch it. I tried various compatibility settings & when it finally ran I was greeted with a pile of JSON errors. It appears to be nothing more than a wrapper on Internet Explorer. The interface has a very Windows Media Player vibe to it and there's no way to change it. Your choices are dark skin or light skin. It doesn't seem to be able to see anything related to your network at all. There's no way to navigate outside your local drives. It also has banner ads at the bottom of the screen.

BonAView - another one that just gave me a bad vibe. Their website just seems aimed at my mom more than anyone looking for a professional tool for organizing images & video. The program itself is an homage to Windows XP, I guess. It's an all gray interface, but everything is glossy and candy looking. Rather than letting you build your own directory structure on your local machine or server, it has it's own system of organization. It also has a gimmicky "3D viewer". Personally I hated it.

Phototheca - looks like iTunes and Lightroom had a baby. It doesn't let you browse your system or the network like most packages do, but instead like Lightroom or Picasa, you need to import your materials and create new Libraries. The interface is very nice to look at, but I don't like being forced to import everything into their system rather than browsing, organizing & tagging things. Also, it does not support video as far as I can tell.

MAGIX Photo Manager 12 - pissed me off right away with trying to be sneaky with their installer. Rather than having you UN-check the crapware they want to install, their installer says "Please check the 3rd party products you do NOT want to install." Sneaky sneaky! The interface icons look a bit like they were designed by the person who makes the Baby Einstein videos. And although it shows a Network Paths drop-down in the explorer window, it's using some bizzaro ancient way to access a Microsoft Workgroup, so I can only see my local machine in the network and therefore the software is useless.


That's about all I could do between dinner and sleep last night. Hopefully that helps someone. I personally like to have really organized and easy-to-find files, so having a good image/video organizer is really important.

-Paul




On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, James De Colling <james.decoll...@gmail.com <mailto:james.decoll...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    XNview here, previously acdsee. ive tried zoner and ifran and
    bridge, xnview just works well for me. remap the mouse to scroll
    images, put thumbnails at 192x192m change background to dark grey
    (turning off thumbnail shadow etc) and its quick too.

    I purely use image viewers as just that though, screaming through
    large collections of textures / ref images etc, then drag/drop
    into photoshop. I dont use any of the editing features etc.

    On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Griswold
    <pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com
    <mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

        I might be taking back what I said about Zoner.

        I've been testing it & FastStone today, along with continuing
        to use Bridge. Zoner honestly does a really good job of being
        not just a fewer, but an organizer. It's basically a cross
        between Bridge, Lightroom and XnView.

        It handles video, vectors, and all the normal bitmap
        formats.  It also doesn't choke on HDRs - which Bridge can
        do.  And, it has no problem with network drives.

        Although their website looked very spammy, I'm fairly
        impressed with it.  The only real negative I can come up with
        at the moment is, the organizational options are limited to
        just "favorites".  I'd like to be able to create collections
        the way you can in Bridge.  But beyond that, it's certainly
        worth a look.

        -Paul


        On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Stephen Davidson
        <magic...@bellsouth.net <mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

            For quick video viewing, I use DJView

            http://windjview.sourceforge.net/

            I leave it on my desktop as an icon, and just drag the
            video file from my file browser onto the
            DJView icon. The reason that I like it, is because it
            will deal with a series of stills (even Softimage .pic files)

            I hope you find that useful.



            On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Paul Griswold
            <pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com
            <mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

                Doing a little research this afternoon.  Xnview has
                one big problem as far as I can tell.  If you try to
                favorite a network folder, it favorites it, but when
                you click on the favorite it freaks out and takes you
                to SkyDrive instead. Since all my images, textures,
                etc., are all on a server, that puts Xnview out of
                the picture.

                Irfranview doesn't seem to have any organization
                tools at all, but it's still a great little image viewer.

                Zoner Photo Studio came up in some searches.  The
                first negative I see is, they require you to sign up
                to their website just to get the free version.  It
                feels very pro-sumer in how they present it, but
                maybe that's just my impression. It's got a nice,
                Lightroom-like interface, but I'm just concerned it's
                one of those programs that attaches adware to your
                system, sells your email address, etc.... again -
                that's just the vibe I'm getting.

                FastStone Image Viewer was listed as an alternative
                to ACDSee.  I've never heard of it & have no
                opinion.  I might give it a try.  It can be found
                here: http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm



                On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Paul Griswold
                <pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com
                <mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

                    I forgot about Xnview.  I think it has some
                    decent features.  I'm not sure if it handles
                    video, though.

                    On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Martin Yara
                    <furik...@gmail.com <mailto:furik...@gmail.com>>
                    wrote:

                        A few years ago I was using Windows Photo
                        Gallery or Live Gallery or something like
                        that, can't remember the name, a free app
                        from Microsoft.

                        It was interesting. I was creating my own
                        texture library with tags, keywords and
                        categories, but I couldn't finish it. It's
                        just too much work.

                        For just visualizing images I use Irfanview too.

                        Martin






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