Sod it,

I'll just avoid using my hands altogether.

http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U

A.

On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have always loved the Logitech MX18:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50
>
> The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware
> (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless
> scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll
> nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
> handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good,
> comfortable mouse.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman <tekano....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> foolish humans, think like a primate.
>>
>> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a
>> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are
>> none.
>>
>>
>> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/
>>
>>
>>
>> best
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley <adammsee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.
>> >
>> > The more natural grip makes good sense.
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman <i.anima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review
>> of a
>> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70
>> degree
>> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the
>> top a
>> >> bit.
>> >>
>> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
>> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the
>> Anker
>> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a
>> decent
>> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my
>> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where
>> it
>> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my
>> wife
>> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
>> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version,
>> it's a
>> >> steal.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> -=Eric
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
>> >> <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Eric,
>> >>>
>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
>> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live
>> with
>> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is
>> sketchy
>> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
>> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will
>> not
>> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to
>> the
>> >>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three,
>> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last
>> year
>> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in
>> my
>> >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2,
>> though
>> >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak
>> and
>> >>> too light for me).
>> >>>
>> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
>> >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can,
>> either by
>> >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever
>> fits
>> >>> best for that task for its duration.
>> >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
>> >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless
>> you have
>> >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>> >>>
>> >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
>> >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you
>> land,
>> >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>> >>>
>> >>> YMMV
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman <i.anima...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey Raffaele,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my
>> children. I
>> >>>> just wish that is had three full buttons.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4
>> though, I
>> >>>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the
>> buttons
>> >>>> are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I
>> really
>> >>>> like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to
>> clicking
>> >>>> with the mouse wheel)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> -=Eric
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
>> >>>> <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
>> >>>>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
>> >>>>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
>> >>>>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people,
>> me
>> >>>>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb
>> strongly
>> >>>>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker
>> doesn't
>> >>>>> have the issue.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you
>> don't
>> >>>>> like.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical
>> >>>>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for
>> your wrist.
>> >>>>> The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse
>> throughout the
>> >>>>> day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman <i.anima...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a
>> >>>>>> wired version of this mouse:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -=T=-
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it!
>> Ship
>> >>>>> it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -=T=-
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship
>> it
>> >>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -=T=-
>> >
>> >
>>
>

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