Similarly Wacom has touchpads that also have pen input.
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/navigation/bamboo-pad-usb

On 6/25/2015 10:44 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
A guy at work who had wrist problems loves his "/Fingerworks iGesture Pad/":
http://www.ergocanada.com/products/mice/fingerworks_igest_pad.html
but I don't believe the company exists anymore, though maybe someone on eBay still sells it.

Some googling found me a large Logitech trackpad which I imagine is probably as good or better:
http://support.logitech.com/product/touchpad-t650


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM Adam Seeley <adammsee...@gmail.com <mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Sod it,

    I'll just avoid using my hands altogether.

    http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U

    A.

    On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com
    <mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I have always loved the Logitech MX18:
        
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50

        The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from
        the hardware (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not
        that weighted smooth endless scroll nonsense), middle mouse
        button is just a button (no sideways scroll nonsense, no
        smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
        handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a
        good, comfortable mouse.


        On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman
        <tekano....@gmail.com <mailto:tekano....@gmail.com>> wrote:

            foolish humans, think like a primate.

            this has done me for several years, approaching a decade.
            refused a
            traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this
            there are
            none.

            
http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/



            best

            Rob


            On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley
            <adammsee...@gmail.com <mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
            > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a
            tenner.
            >
            > The more natural grip makes good sense.
            >
            > A.
            >
            > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman
            <i.anima...@gmail.com <mailto:i.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote:
            >>
            >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a
            non-personal review of a
            >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about
            the 50-70 degree
            >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand
            rolls over the top a
            >> bit.
            >>
            >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get)
            development...I
            >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired
            version of the Anker
            >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It
            feels like a decent
            >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had
            a flange for my
            >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is
            big enough where it
            >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well
            suited for my wife
            >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons
            have a bit more
            >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the
            wired version, it's a
            >> steal.
            >>
            >> Cheers,
            >> -=Eric
            >>
            >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
            >> <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com
            <mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
            >>>
            >>> Hey Eric,
            >>>
            >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not
            everybody feels that way
            >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some
            people can't live with
            >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's
            research is sketchy
            >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
            >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use,
            especially if I
            >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a
            flat mouse will not
            >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any
            force opposite to the
            >>> click, the desk will do it for you.
            >>>
            >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS),
            skipped the three,
            >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and
            greatest last year
            >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is
            OK-ish at best in my
            >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing
            as the evo2, though
            >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is
            excellent (left is weak and
            >>> too light for me).
            >>>
            >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of
            their wrists to
            >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if
            you can, either by
            >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do
            frequently whichever fits
            >>> best for that task for its duration.
            >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through
            different parts of
            >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can
            take, unless you have
            >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize
            excluding that.
            >>>
            >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a
            pencil in a relaxed
            >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and
            see where you land,
            >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your
            favourite mouse :)
            >>>
            >>> YMMV
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman
            <i.anima...@gmail.com <mailto:i.anima...@gmail.com>>
            >>> wrote:
            >>>>
            >>>> Hey Raffaele,
            >>>>
            >>>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those
            for my children. I
            >>>> just wish that is had three full buttons.
            >>>>
            >>>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the
            Evlouent 4 though, I
            >>>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of
            the mouse; the buttons
            >>>> are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier
            model? Also I really
            >>>> like having a dedicated middle button (I never could
            get used to clicking
            >>>> with the mouse wheel)
            >>>>
            >>>> Cheers,
            >>>> -=Eric
            >>>>
            >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
            >>>> <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com
            <mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
            >>>>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other
            than the lack of
            >>>>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
            >>>>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for
            an Evoluent.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a
            lot of people, me
            >>>>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with
            your thumb strongly
            >>>>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around
            it. The Anker doesn't
            >>>>> have the issue.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return
            the one you don't
            >>>>> like.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first,
            but their medical
            >>>>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far
            from ideal for your wrist.
            >>>>> The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles
            of mouse throughout the
            >>>>> day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
            >>>>>
            >>>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman
            <i.anima...@gmail.com <mailto:i.anima...@gmail.com>>
            >>>>> wrote:
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I
            switched to a
            >>>>>> wired version of this mouse:
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
            
http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
            >>>>>> --
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>>
            >>>>>> -=T=-
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>>
            >>>>> --
            >>>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our
            software! Ship it! Ship
            >>>>> it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>>
            >>>> --
            >>>>
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            >>>>
            >>>> -=T=-
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> --
            >>> Our users will know fear and cower before our
            software! Ship it! Ship it
            >>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
            >>
            >>
            >>
            >>
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            >>
            >> -=T=-
            >
            >



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