Until they create linux that you can just insatll, get all drivers updated
and all up and running and working in same day it will be nightmare.
Windows just recently crushed 3 of my machines with it's retarded upgrades
policy and for some stupid reason I didn't blok all that crap.. But tried
Linux road couple times and I couldn't even get a single version up and
running on any of my machines. If a fairly advanced user with 20+ years of
experience have to struggle to get OS up and running then it surely
something wrong with that OS :) But yes mac is even rose. simply makes no
point in wasting so much money on something that
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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Angus Davidson <angus.david...@wits.ac.za>
wrote:

> I will be honest. I loved my g5 mac pro, and I have loved OSX. There are
> so many things is does in a far more elegant manner than Windows. Even to
> the point of hackintoshing and putting the OS on decent hardware (where it
> really shines). However even with that. These days I go directly to linux.
> Centos if I need to run Maya, or Mint if not. Its just so much easier. The
> new desktops like Mate make it a total pleasure to work in and its
> exceptionally quick. Octane , Photoscan, Fusion all running like a Ferrari.
>
>
>
> I am going have to get used to windows 10 as I will have 250 student
> machines running it next year, but doesn’t mean I have to like it.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Angus
>
>
>
> *From: *Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" <
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 07 June 2017 at 1:45 PM
> *To: *"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>
> *Subject: *Re: New iMac Pro? Yay or Nay?
>
>
>
> Now more than ever I think of OS X and Apple hardware as the luxury end of
> the consumer PC market. There’s so much about OS X that I prefer to Windows
> but I’m also aware that I’m paying an extreme premium for the experience.
>
>
>
> However, It’s been a long time since I’ve considered Apple hardware to be
> an optimal choice for creative professionals per se, never mind 3d
> professionals. The iMac Pro is a lustful piece of consumer electronics for
> sure but it would be a exceptionally odd choice for a 3d professional.
>
>
>
> On 7 Jun 2017, at 12:17, Christopher Crouzet <
> christopher.crou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Something to consider beyond the hardware is the software.
>
>
>
> During the years that I've been using MacOS, Apple often shined at only
> supporting outdated OpenGL versions in their OS, or poorly implementing it.
> To make things worse, they decided to go their own way with their Metal API
> without providing any support for Vulkan (unless I missed something). I
> don't think many developers are willing to write their software using the
> Metal API to boost rendering performances when the 3D market is fairly
> small on Mac.
>
>
>
> Surely it's a bit cocky from them to be boasting their graphics marketing
> when they seem to be hated by graphics developers.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 June 2017 at 17:37, Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl> wrote:
>
> One of the first reviews, and it's not really a glowing one:
>
> https://www.slashgear.com/imac-pro-still-doesnt-give-
> the-one-thing-pros-want-06487652/
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> \/-------------\/----------------\/
>
> On 6-6-2017 21:50, Angus Davidson wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Apple has defined pro market to mean , FCP X and a little
> bit of after effects. Its the only reason I can think of for some of the
> dumb decisions made in the last two years. Up to and including today.
>
> At least dell gives decent EDU discounts. Going to make the move from
> apple far less painful for us
>
>
>
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>
> As discussed this morning, Please note the attached strategic direction as
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> *From:* Marc-Andre Carbonneau [marc-andre.carbonn...@ubisoft.com]
> *Sent:* 06 June 2017 09:38 PM
> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.com/
> forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> *Subject:* RE: New iMac Pro? Yay or Nay?
>
> Heheheh thanks everyone. I’m not so much using powerful pcs anymore but
> was interested in getting the low down on these “new” contenders.
>
> MAC
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
> listproc.autodesk.com <softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jonathan Moore
> *Sent:* June-06-17 3:36 PM
> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://groups.google.
> com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
> *Subject:* Re: New iMac Pro? Yay or Nay?
>
>
>
> Apologies for this slight digression into the benefits of 2012-2014
> generation Zseries workstations but the final good points about them is
> that they're built like tanks with top drawer components so they’re less
> risk than many other second hand purchases. The total cost for my three
> Zseries workstations was under £2k (GPU’s on top) so that’s a heap of
> processing power for the budget (96 threads running at 3.1 Ghz). And
> E5-6670’s are incredibly efficient too so running costs are very favourable
> for typical Houdini/ICE CPU simulations. Although running 9 GPU’s across
> three workstations for rendering chews through the juice.
>
>
>
> So back to the original point of the iMac Pro. There are far better ways
> to spend your cash!  :)
>
>
>
> On 6 Jun 2017, at 20:21, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff>
>
> As you can see plenty of PCIe Gen3 x16 and x8’s as long as you go for a
> dual processes build.
>
>
>
> Dual E5-2670 based systems won’t best a latest & greatest i7 for GPU
> rendering but if you pick up a system (or preferably multiple systems) at
> the right price, you’re get something that performs well both on CPU
> simulations and on GPU rendering duties.
>
>
>
> http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04400043.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Jun 2017, at 20:05, Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I thought those z workstations had pretty old mobos. They only had pcie 2
> slots. And at 8x or somthing like that which seems quite unremarkable for
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