Steve:

You might be interested in:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-10233, please comment on
whether that JIRA is along the lines you're thinking.

Best,
Erick

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:35 AM, Stephen Weiss <steve.we...@wgsn.com> wrote:
> We run both, and we are running the latest versions for both.  There are 
> different use cases for each one.  Where we are using solrcloud, it only has 
> to operate in one datacenter, and sharding is incredibly important because we 
> have billions and billions of documents.  In a separate group of servers, we 
> use master/slave in a cascade that runs through multiple datacenters, has 
> relatively small indexes that don't really need to be sharded, and we need to 
> be able to add and remove servers at a moment's notice, which really is not 
> that simple to do with SolrCloud.
>
> I wouldn't assume that people who are using replication are all stuck in the 
> past and not using the cloud version out of some luddite aversion to software 
> upgrades.  SolrCloud's feature set doesn't allow for everything you can do 
> with replication, just as replication doesn't allow for everything you can do 
> with SolrCloud.  Personally, I would love it if there were some kind of 
> hybrid model (ie, a cloud that could replicate to another cloud), but that 
> doesn't exist.  Even if it did though, I would probably still use vanilla 
> replication in certain contexts.
>
> --
> Steve
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Erick Erickson 
> <erickerick...@gmail.com<mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Otis:
>
> bq: But it doesn't really matter so much whether people are the same or not
>
> I'm going to gently disagree here. I regularly see questions on the
> user's list about upgrading from 4.x or 3.x (!). So if the sample of
> users responding to your poll are substantially the same users as
> responded in 2013, there's no guarantee that they've even upgraded
> Solr, much less thought it worthwhile to change their paradigm.
>
> I suppose an interesting bit of additional data would be "when did you
> start using Solr?". Would there be a greater percentage of responders
> using SolrCloud in 2014 .vs. 2013? 2015 .vs. 2014? and so on.
>
> Mind you I have zero data to support any of this, it's speculation and
> I haven't looked at the poll so maybe I'm off base........
>
> Erick
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Otis Gospodnetić
> <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com<mailto:otis.gospodne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it's roughly the same profile of people.  The poll from 2013 was on
>> Sematext blog and the new one is on Sematext Twitter account.  But it
>> doesn't really matter so much whether people are the same or not.  What
>> amazes me that in 2017 we don't see a lot more SolrCloud users!
>>
>> Otis
>> --
>> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
>> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - http://sematext.com/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Erick Erickson 
>> <erickerick...@gmail.com<mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, this is kind of counter to my expectations too. I guess my
>>> question is whether the same people are responding to the new survey
>>> as the old one. "If it ain't broke" and all that.
>>>
>>> Erick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Otis Gospodnetić
>>> <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com<mailto:otis.gospodne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I'm really really surprised here.  Back in 2013 we did a poll to see how
>>> > people were running Master-Slave (4.x back then) and SolrCloud was a bit
>>> > more popular than Master-Slave:
>>> > https://sematext.com/blog/2013/02/25/poll-solr-cloud-or-not/
>>> >
>>> > Here is a fresh new poll with pretty much the same question - How do you
>>> > run your Solr? <https://twitter.com/sematext/status/854927627748036608>
>>> -
>>> > and guess what?  SolrCloud is *not* at all a lot more prevalent than
>>> > Master-Slave.
>>> >
>>> > We definitely see a lot more SolrCloud used by Sematext Solr
>>> > consulting/support customers, so I'm a bit surprised by the results of
>>> this
>>> > poll so far.
>>> >
>>> > Is anyone else surprised by this?  See https://twitter.com/sematext/
>>> > status/854927627748036608
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Otis
>>> > --
>>> > Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
>>> > Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - http://sematext.com/
>>>
>
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