I disagree Ishan. We shouldn't get rid of standalone mode.
I see three layers in Solr:
1. Lucene (the actual search libraries)
2. The server infra ("standalone Solr" basically)
3. Cluster management (SolrCloud)
There's value in using lower layers without higher ones.
SolrCloud is a good solution for some use cases but there are others that
need a search server and for which SolrCloud is not a good fit and will
likely never be. If standalone mode is no longer available, such use cases
will have to turn to something other than Solr (or fork and go their own
way).
Ilan
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 9:39 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rather than getting rid of the terminology, we should get rid of the
> standalone mode Solr altogether. I totally understand that SolrCloud is
> broken in many ways today, but we should attempt to fix it and have it as
> the only mode in Solr.
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun, 2020, 8:17 pm Mike Drob, <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Brend,
> >
> > I appreciate that you are trying to examine this issue from multiple
> sides
> > and consider future implications, but I don’t think that is a stirring
> > argument. By analogy, if we are out of eggs and my wife asks me to go to
> > the store to get some, refusing to do so on the basis that she might call
> > me while I’m there and also ask me to get milk would not be reasonable.
> >
> > What will come next may be an interesting question philosophically, but
> we
> > are not discussing abstract concepts here. There is a concrete issue
> > identified, and we’re soliciting input in how best to address it.
> >
> > Thank you for the suggestion of "guide/follower"
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 6:30 AM Bernd Fehling <
> > bernd.fehl...@uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm following this thread now for a while and I can understand
> > > the wish to change some naming/wording/speech in one or the other
> > > programs but I always get back to the one question:
> > > "Is it the weapon which kills people or the hand controlled by
> > > the mind which fires the weapon?"
> > >
> > > The thread started with slave - slavery, then turned over to master
> > > and followed by leader (for me as a german... you know).
> > > What will come next?
> > >
> > > And more over, we now discuss about changes in the source code and
> > > due to this there need to be changes to the documentation.
> > > What about the books people wrote about this programs and source code,
> > > should we force this authors to rewrite their books?
> > > May be we should file a request to all web search engines to reject
> > > all stored content about these "banned" words?
> > > And contact all web hosters about providing bad content.
> > >
> > > To sum things up, within my 40 years of computer science and writing
> > > programs I have never had a nanosecond any thoughts about words
> > > like master, slave, leader, ... other than thinking about computers
> > > and programming.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents.
> > >
> > > For what it is worth, I tend to guide/follower if there "must be" any
> > > changes.
> > >
> > > Bernd
> > >
> >
>
