Bob

No, I don't.  Let me look into that and post my results.

Mark


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Bob Sandiford <bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> wrote:

> Hi, Mark.
>
> I haven't used DIH myself - so I'll need to leave comments on your set up
> to others who have done so.
>
> Another question - after your initial index create (and after each delta),
> do you run a 'commit'?  Do you run an 'optimize'?  (Without the optimize,
> 'deleted' records still show up in query results...)
>
> Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
> P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> www.sirsidynix.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark juszczec [mailto:mark.juszc...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: updating existing data in index vs inserting new data in
> > index
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Thanks very much for the reply!
> >
> > I am using a unique integer called order_id as the Solr index key.
> >
> > My query, deltaQuery and deltaImportQuery are below:
> >
> > <entity name="item1"
> >   pk="ORDER_ID"
> >   query="select 1 as TABLE_ID , orders.order_id,
> > orders.order_booked_ind,
> > orders.order_dt, orders.cancel_dt,     orders.account_manager_id,
> > orders.of_header_id, orders.order_status_lov_id, orders.order_type_id,
> > orders.approved_discount_pct, orders.campaign_nm,
> > orders.approved_by_cd,orders.advertiser_id, orders.agency_id from
> > orders"
> >
> >   deltaImportQuery="select 1 as TABLE_ID, orders.order_id,
> > orders.order_booked_ind, orders.order_dt, orders.cancel_dt,
> > orders.account_manager_id, orders.of_header_id,
> > orders.order_status_lov_id,
> > orders.order_type_id, orders.approved_discount_pct, orders.campaign_nm,
> > orders.approved_by_cd,orders.advertiser_id, orders.agency_id from orders
> > where orders.order_id = '${dataimporter.delta.ORDER_ID}'"
> >
> >   deltaQuery="select orders.order_id from orders where orders.change_dt
> > >
> > to_date('${dataimporter.last_index_time}','YYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS')" >
> >         </entity>
> >
> > The test I am running is two part:
> >
> > 1.  After I do a full import of the index, I insert a brand new record
> > (with
> > a never existed before order_id) in the database.  The delta import
> > picks
> > this up just fine.
> >
> > 2.  After the full import, I modify a record with an order_id that
> > already
> > shows up in the index.  I have verified there is only one record with
> > this
> > order_id in both the index and the db before I do the delta update.
> >
> > I guess the question is, am I screwing myself up by defining my own Solr
> > index key?  I want to, ultimately, be able to search on ORDER_ID in the
> > Solr
> > index.  However, the docs say (I think) a field does not have to be the
> > Solr
> > primary key in order to be searchable.  Would I be better off letting
> > Solr
> > manage the keys?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Bob Sandiford
> > <bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com>wrote:
> >
> > > What are you using as the unique id in your Solr index?  It sounds
> > like you
> > > may have one value as your Solr index unique id, which bears no
> > resemblance
> > > to a unique[1] id derived from your data...
> > >
> > > Or - another way to put it - what is it that makes these two records
> > in
> > > your Solr index 'the same', and what are the unique id's for those two
> > > entries in the Solr index?  How are those id's related to your
> > original
> > > data?
> > >
> > > [1] not only unique, but immutable.  I.E. if you update a row in your
> > > database, the unique id derived from that row has to be the same as it
> > would
> > > have been before the update.  Otherwise, there's nothing for Solr to
> > > recognize as a duplicate entry, and do a 'delete' and 'insert' instead
> > of
> > > just an 'insert'.
> > >
> > > Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
> > > P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> > > www.sirsidynix.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark juszczec [mailto:mark.juszc...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:15 AM
> > > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > > > Subject: updating existing data in index vs inserting new data in
> > index
> > > >
> > > > Hello all
> > > >
> > > > I'm using Solr 3.2 and am confused about updating existing data in
> > an
> > > > index.
> > > >
> > > > According to the DataImportHandler Wiki:
> > > >
> > > > *"delta-import* : For incremental imports and change detection run
> > the
> > > > command `http://<host>:<port>/solr/dataimport?command=delta-import .
> > It
> > > > supports the same clean, commit, optimize and debug parameters as
> > > > full-import command."
> > > >
> > > > I know delta-import will find new data in the database and insert it
> > > > into
> > > > the index.  My problem is how it handles updates where I've got a
> > record
> > > > that exists in the index and the database, the database record is
> > > > changed
> > > > and I want to incorporate those changes in the existing record in
> > the
> > > > index.
> > > >  IOW I don't want to insert it again.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried this and wound up with 2 records with the same key in the
> > > > index.
> > > >  The first contains the original db values found when the index was
> > > > created,
> > > > the 2nd contains the db values after the record was changed.
> > > >
> > > > I've also found this
> > > >
> > http://search.lucidimagination.com/search/out?u=http%3A%2F%2Flucene.4720
> > > > 66.n3.nabble.com%2FDelta-import-with-solrj-client-
> > tp1085763p1086173.html
> > > > the
> > > > subject is 'Delta-import with solrj client'
> > > >
> > > > "Greetings. I have a *solrj* client for fetching data from database.
> > I
> > > > am
> > > > using *delta*-*import* for fetching data. If a column is changed in
> > > > database
> > > > using timestamp with *delta*-*import* i get the latest column
> > indexed
> > > > but
> > > > there are *duplicate* values in the index similar to the column but
> > the
> > > > data
> > > > is older. This works with cleaning the index but i want to update
> > the
> > > > index
> > > > without cleaning it. Is there a way to just update the index with
> > the
> > > > updated column without having *duplicate* values. Appreciate for any
> > > > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Hando"
> > > >
> > > > There are 2 responses:
> > > >
> > > > "Short answer is no, there isn't a way. *Solr* doesn't have the
> > concept
> > > > of
> > > > 'Update' to an indexed document. You need to add the full document
> > (all
> > > > 'columns') each time any one field changes. If doing that in your
> > > > DataImportHandler logic is difficult you may need to write a
> > separate
> > > > Update
> > > > Service that does:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Read UniqueID, UpdatedColumn(s)  from database
> > > > 2) Using UniqueID Retrieve document from *Solr*
> > > > 3) Add/Update field(s) with updated column(s)
> > > > 4) Add document back to *Solr*
> > > >
> > > > Although, if you use DIH to do a full *import*, using the same query
> > in
> > > > your *Delta*-*Import* to get the whole document shouldn't be that
> > > > difficult."
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > "Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Make sure you use a proper "ID" field, which does *not* change even
> > if
> > > > the
> > > > content in the database changes. In this way, when your
> > > > *delta*-*import* fetches
> > > > changed rows to index, they will update the existing rows in your
> > index.
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > I have an ID field that doesn't change.  It is the primary key field
> > > > from
> > > > the database table I am trying to index and I have verified it is
> > > > unique.
> > > >
> > > > So, does Solr allow updates (not inserts) of existing records?  Is
> > > > anyone
> > > > able to do this?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > >
> > >
>
>

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