Hi Mark,
I guess the "commit=true" when doing a "delta-import" is the solution for
the JIRA I just submit SOLR-2711.
Can you explain to me where you configured this info commit=true ?
thanks,
Alex
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Mark juszczec <mark.juszc...@gmail.com>wrote:
> First thanks for all the help.
>
> I think the problem was a combination of not having a unique key defined
> AND
> not including the commit=true parameter in the delta update.
>
> Once I did those things, the delta import left me with a single (updated)
> copy of the record including the changes in the source database.
>
> Do I have write access to the Wiki so I can explicitly state commit=true
> NEEDS to be specified?
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I'd restart Solr after changing the schema.xml. The delta import does NOT
> > require restart or anything else like that.....
> >
> > The fact that two records are displayed is not what I'd expect. But Solr
> > absolutely handles the replace via <uniqueKey>. So I suspect that you're
> > not actually doing what you expect. A little-known aid for debugging DIH
> > is solr/admin/dataimport.jsp, that might give you some joy.
> >
> > But, to summarize. This should work fine for DIH as far as Solr is
> > concerned
> > assuming that <uniqueKey> is properly defined. In you query above that
> > returns two documents, can you paste the entire response with &fl=*
> > attached?
> > I'm guessing that the data in your index isn't what you're expecting...
> >
> > Also, you might want to get a copy of Luke and examine your index,
> there's
> > a
> > wealth of infomration
> >
> >
> > Best
> > Erick
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Mark juszczec <mark.juszc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Erick
> > >
> > > I used to, but now I find I must have commented it out in a fit of rage
> > ;-)
> > >
> > > This could be the whole problem.
> > >
> > > I have verified via admin schema browser that the field is ORDER_ID and
> > will
> > > double check I refer to it in upper case in the appropriate places in
> the
> > > Solr config scheme.
> > >
> > > Curiously, the admin schema browser display for ORDER_ID says
> > "hasDeletions:
> > > false" - which seems the opposite of what I want. I want to be able
> to
> > > delete duplicates. Or am I interpreting this field wrong?
> > >
> > > In order to check for duplicates, I am going to using the admin browser
> > to
> > > enter the following in the Make A Query box:
> > >
> > > TABLE_ID:1 AND ORDER_ID:674659
> > >
> > > When I click search and view the results, 2 records are displayed. One
> > has
> > > the original values, one has the changed values. I haven't examined
> the
> > xml
> > > (via view source) too closely and the next time I run I will look for
> > > something indicating one of the records is inactive.
> > >
> > > When you say "change your schema" do you mean via a delta import or by
> > > modifying the config files or both? FWIW, I am deleting the index on
> the
> > > file system, doing a full import, modifying the data in the database
> and
> > > then doing a delta import.
> > >
> > > I am not restarting Solr at all in this process.
> > >
> > > I understand Solr does not perform key management. You described
> exactly
> > > what I meant. Sorry for any confusion.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Erick Erickson <
> erickerick...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Let me re-state a few things to see if I've got it right:
> > >>
> > >> > your schema.xml file has an entry like
> > <uniqueKey>order_id</uniqueKey>,
> > >> right?
> > >>
> > >> > given this definition, any document added with an order_id that
> > already
> > >> exists in the
> > >> Solr index will be replaced. i.e. you should have one and only one
> > >> document with a
> > >> given order_id.
> > >>
> > >> > case matters. Check via the admin page ("schema browser") to see if
> > you
> > >> have
> > >> two fields, order_id an ORDER_ID.
> > >>
> > >> > How are you checking that your docs are duplicates? If you do a
> search
> > on
> > >> order_id, you should get back one and only one document (assuming
> the
> > >> definition above). A document that's deleted will just be marked as
> > >> deleted,
> > >> the data won't be purged from the index. It won't show in search
> > results,
> > >> but
> > >> it will show if you use lower-level ways to access the data.
> > >>
> > >> > Whenever you change your schema, it's best to clean the index,
> restart
> > >> the server and
> > >> re-index from scratch. Solr won't retroactively remove duplicate
> > >> <uniqueKey> entries.
> > >>
> > >> > On the stats admin/stats page you should see maxDocs and numDocs.
> The
> > >> difference
> > >> between these should be the number of deleted documents.
> > >>
> > >> > Solr doesn't "manage" unique keys. All that happens is Solr will
> > replace
> > >> any
> > >> pre-existing documents where *you've* defined the <uniqueKey> when a
> > >> new doc is added...
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps
> > >> Erick
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Mark juszczec <
> mark.juszc...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
> > >> > No, I don't. Let me look into that and post my results.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Bob Sandiford <
> > >> bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi, Mark.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I haven't used DIH myself - so I'll need to leave comments on your
> > set
> > >> up
> > >> >> to others who have done so.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Another question - after your initial index create (and after each
> > >> delta),
> > >> >> do you run a 'commit'? Do you run an 'optimize'? (Without the
> > >> optimize,
> > >> >> 'deleted' records still show up in query results...)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
> > >> >> P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> > >> >> www.sirsidynix.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > From: Mark juszczec [mailto:mark.juszc...@gmail.com]
> > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM
> > >> >> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: updating existing data in index vs inserting new
> data
> > in
> > >> >> > index
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Bob
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks very much for the reply!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I am using a unique integer called order_id as the Solr index
> key.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > My query, deltaQuery and deltaImportQuery are below:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > <entity name="item1"
> > >> >> > pk="ORDER_ID"
> > >> >> > query="select 1 as TABLE_ID , orders.order_id,
> > >> >> > orders.order_booked_ind,
> > >> >> > orders.order_dt, orders.cancel_dt, orders.account_manager_id,
> > >> >> > orders.of_header_id, orders.order_status_lov_id,
> > orders.order_type_id,
> > >> >> > orders.approved_discount_pct, orders.campaign_nm,
> > >> >> > orders.approved_by_cd,orders.advertiser_id, orders.agency_id from
> > >> >> > orders"
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > deltaImportQuery="select 1 as TABLE_ID, orders.order_id,
> > >> >> > orders.order_booked_ind, orders.order_dt, orders.cancel_dt,
> > >> >> > orders.account_manager_id, orders.of_header_id,
> > >> >> > orders.order_status_lov_id,
> > >> >> > orders.order_type_id, orders.approved_discount_pct,
> > >> orders.campaign_nm,
> > >> >> > orders.approved_by_cd,orders.advertiser_id, orders.agency_id from
> > >> orders
> > >> >> > where orders.order_id = '${dataimporter.delta.ORDER_ID}'"
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > deltaQuery="select orders.order_id from orders where
> > >> orders.change_dt
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > to_date('${dataimporter.last_index_time}','YYYY-MM-DD
> HH24:MI:SS')"
> > >
> > >> >> > </entity>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The test I am running is two part:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 1. After I do a full import of the index, I insert a brand new
> > record
> > >> >> > (with
> > >> >> > a never existed before order_id) in the database. The delta
> import
> > >> >> > picks
> > >> >> > this up just fine.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 2. After the full import, I modify a record with an order_id
> that
> > >> >> > already
> > >> >> > shows up in the index. I have verified there is only one record
> > with
> > >> >> > this
> > >> >> > order_id in both the index and the db before I do the delta
> update.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I guess the question is, am I screwing myself up by defining my
> own
> > >> Solr
> > >> >> > index key? I want to, ultimately, be able to search on ORDER_ID
> in
> > >> the
> > >> >> > Solr
> > >> >> > index. However, the docs say (I think) a field does not have to
> be
> > >> the
> > >> >> > Solr
> > >> >> > primary key in order to be searchable. Would I be better off
> > letting
> > >> >> > Solr
> > >> >> > manage the keys?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Mark
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Bob Sandiford
> > >> >> > <bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com>wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > What are you using as the unique id in your Solr index? It
> > sounds
> > >> >> > like you
> > >> >> > > may have one value as your Solr index unique id, which bears no
> > >> >> > resemblance
> > >> >> > > to a unique[1] id derived from your data...
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Or - another way to put it - what is it that makes these two
> > records
> > >> >> > in
> > >> >> > > your Solr index 'the same', and what are the unique id's for
> > those
> > >> two
> > >> >> > > entries in the Solr index? How are those id's related to your
> > >> >> > original
> > >> >> > > data?
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > [1] not only unique, but immutable. I.E. if you update a row
> in
> > >> your
> > >> >> > > database, the unique id derived from that row has to be the
> same
> > as
> > >> it
> > >> >> > would
> > >> >> > > have been before the update. Otherwise, there's nothing for
> Solr
> > to
> > >> >> > > recognize as a duplicate entry, and do a 'delete' and 'insert'
> > >> instead
> > >> >> > of
> > >> >> > > just an 'insert'.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Bob Sandiford | Lead Software Engineer | SirsiDynix
> > >> >> > > P: 800.288.8020 X6943 | bob.sandif...@sirsidynix.com
> > >> >> > > www.sirsidynix.com
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > > > From: Mark juszczec [mailto:mark.juszc...@gmail.com]
> > >> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:15 AM
> > >> >> > > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > >> >> > > > Subject: updating existing data in index vs inserting new
> data
> > in
> > >> >> > index
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Hello all
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I'm using Solr 3.2 and am confused about updating existing
> data
> > in
> > >> >> > an
> > >> >> > > > index.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > According to the DataImportHandler Wiki:
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > *"delta-import* : For incremental imports and change
> detection
> > run
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > > command `http://
> > <host>:<port>/solr/dataimport?command=delta-import
> > >> .
> > >> >> > It
> > >> >> > > > supports the same clean, commit, optimize and debug
> parameters
> > as
> > >> >> > > > full-import command."
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I know delta-import will find new data in the database and
> > insert
> > >> it
> > >> >> > > > into
> > >> >> > > > the index. My problem is how it handles updates where I've
> got
> > a
> > >> >> > record
> > >> >> > > > that exists in the index and the database, the database
> record
> > is
> > >> >> > > > changed
> > >> >> > > > and I want to incorporate those changes in the existing
> record
> > in
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > > index.
> > >> >> > > > IOW I don't want to insert it again.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I've tried this and wound up with 2 records with the same key
> > in
> > >> the
> > >> >> > > > index.
> > >> >> > > > The first contains the original db values found when the
> index
> > >> was
> > >> >> > > > created,
> > >> >> > > > the 2nd contains the db values after the record was changed.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I've also found this
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> >
> > >>
> > http://search.lucidimagination.com/search/out?u=http%3A%2F%2Flucene.4720
> > >> >> > > > 66.n3.nabble.com%2FDelta-import-with-solrj-client-
> > >> >> > tp1085763p1086173.html
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > subject is 'Delta-import with solrj client'
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > "Greetings. I have a *solrj* client for fetching data from
> > >> database.
> > >> >> > I
> > >> >> > > > am
> > >> >> > > > using *delta*-*import* for fetching data. If a column is
> > changed
> > >> in
> > >> >> > > > database
> > >> >> > > > using timestamp with *delta*-*import* i get the latest column
> > >> >> > indexed
> > >> >> > > > but
> > >> >> > > > there are *duplicate* values in the index similar to the
> column
> > >> but
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > > data
> > >> >> > > > is older. This works with cleaning the index but i want to
> > update
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > > index
> > >> >> > > > without cleaning it. Is there a way to just update the index
> > with
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > > updated column without having *duplicate* values. Appreciate
> > for
> > >> any
> > >> >> > > > feedback.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Hando"
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > There are 2 responses:
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > "Short answer is no, there isn't a way. *Solr* doesn't have
> the
> > >> >> > concept
> > >> >> > > > of
> > >> >> > > > 'Update' to an indexed document. You need to add the full
> > document
> > >> >> > (all
> > >> >> > > > 'columns') each time any one field changes. If doing that in
> > your
> > >> >> > > > DataImportHandler logic is difficult you may need to write a
> > >> >> > separate
> > >> >> > > > Update
> > >> >> > > > Service that does:
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > 1) Read UniqueID, UpdatedColumn(s) from database
> > >> >> > > > 2) Using UniqueID Retrieve document from *Solr*
> > >> >> > > > 3) Add/Update field(s) with updated column(s)
> > >> >> > > > 4) Add document back to *Solr*
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Although, if you use DIH to do a full *import*, using the
> same
> > >> query
> > >> >> > in
> > >> >> > > > your *Delta*-*Import* to get the whole document shouldn't be
> > that
> > >> >> > > > difficult."
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > and
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > "Hi,
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Make sure you use a proper "ID" field, which does *not*
> change
> > >> even
> > >> >> > if
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > content in the database changes. In this way, when your
> > >> >> > > > *delta*-*import* fetches
> > >> >> > > > changed rows to index, they will update the existing rows in
> > your
> > >> >> > index.
> > >> >> > > > "
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I have an ID field that doesn't change. It is the primary
> key
> > >> field
> > >> >> > > > from
> > >> >> > > > the database table I am trying to index and I have verified
> it
> > is
> > >> >> > > > unique.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > So, does Solr allow updates (not inserts) of existing
> records?
> > Is
> > >> >> > > > anyone
> > >> >> > > > able to do this?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Mark
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
