Hi

there are some nice 'front-ends' like MailScanner and amavis-new that provide nicer interfaces to let your MTA use SA (amongst other things) without having to get down and dirty with the MTA config files too much.

About a year ago I was in correspondance with a lecturer at a northern Texes college. He taught a mandatory *nix admin course. After the 'hell' of the first couple of weeks getting people to grips with a CLI, ALL his students prefered a CLI (and shell programming/piping/... ) to a GUI as they could see the power of the shell.

It's all about education. if all people are shown/taught is a GUI then they won't know any better. We need more colleges like my friends who are willing to educate on what's needed not what people *think* they need.

--
Martin Hepworth
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300


Dimitrios wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:49:58 -0400 "Spam Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bottom line: your peer base is changing rapidly. No longer are you a
group of select "tech weenies" (so to speak) that understand what a
command line is and that compiling is not gathering grass clippings and
food garbage in a pile in the backyard. As you exist now you are the
leadership of a group of uninformed admins that are getting wind of your
theology. That, unfortunately, is a downside to becoming popular: the
user base intellectual mean drops.


woha!

very nicely put!

indeed that is the problem,  SA lacks a HOWTO or step-by-step idiots guide
and the user base has indeed changed and includes lots of Winblowz users.

personaly, i dont really care about the idiots who can't run SA, not my
problem they are Winblowz idiots ;)

but a nice HOWTO or step-by-step guide for Linux or FreeBSD would be
helpful in general.


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