On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:52:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>This posting made from the web-site.  Please reply via
>email in addition to the group.  Thanks.
>------------------------------------------------------
>http://spamcop.net/w3m?i=z22663301z82c8d1114deb58b039157f474ea8bf75z
>
>Someone reported this:
>
>Your site http://www.earthspirit.org/mtongue/chtlib/chtlifr.html was
>successfully submitted at hotrate.com (http://www.hotrate.com), the
>web's most relevant search engine!
>You can find your site in hotrate.com at
>http://www.hotrate.com/navitem.asp?id=134494
>
>
>as spam.  Which there is no doubt that it is.  
>
>However SpamCop's policy of  "every url is a guilty party" resulted in a shutdown of 
>EarthSpirit's site, 
>when it's absolutely clear from the mail that they had nothing to do with it.  
>It's this kill-the-bystanders philosophy that causes many ISPs to completely ignore 
>SpamCop reports.  
>It's also the reason why I refuse to automate reports on my site 
>(http://www.spamwatcher.com/). 
> You *must* have a human decision maker, or you're just making it that 
>much harder for ISPs and hosting providers to deal with the real problem.

If you actually read your spamcop report, why did you not click the URL, the
one you posted yourself? You could easily set the site mentioned, as an
innocent bystander? (suggest you go to this link and you will see how SpamCop
is trying to help you)

It is not SpamCop's policy to report every site but will at the "Human
decision maker's" request do so?

 if you look at the address in the SpamCop URL, (you have posted above)
*********@reports.spamcop.net as a letter to reply to, you can ask them
yourself why it was felt that the site mentioned was felt to be spamming

If you wish to or write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and if you have a case, the
user will be fined ($$) and or banned from using SpamCop

The site may be being "Joe jobbed" If so SpamCop can be used by an abuse desk
to reduce the flak by YOU and abuse desk learning how to. This which involves
going to the site you cared to post the URL about? If you did this you may
find SpamCop is a friendly tool which can aid you, not hinder 


Petzl 
[Nothing official, just another SpamCop user]
These messages are only the opinion of the poster,are no substitute for your own 
research
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