Philippe,

Did you actually read the proposed draft? It’s has more clarity as to key and 
practical aspects we already look for (e.g., stable license text) and relaxes 
the must-be-free requirement we have been operating under. 

And what William said. 

I’m not sure what your specific concern is. 

Jilayne 

Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and typographical errors. 

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:30 PM, William Bartholomew <iamwill...@github.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Philippe,
> 
> I agree with you but I think it is orthogonal, the SPDX license inclusion 
> guidelines would govern what goes in the official SPDX license namespace, it 
> does not restrict what could go into other license namespaces (which would be 
> implemented by the other proposal currently being discussed).
> 
> William
> 
>> On 3/12/20 2:23 PM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote:
>> Hi Jilayne:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:59 PM J Lovejoy <opensou...@jilayne.com> wrote:
>>> I’m sending this to both the legal and general mailing lists to ensure
>>> greatest visibility.  The legal team has come up with a final draft of the
>>> license inclusion guidelines based on various conversations and feedback
>>> over the past 8 months of intermittent discussion.
>>> The pull request representing this draft is located here:
>>> https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/pull/990
>> On January 31st a compliance tooling meeting and hackathon took place
>> in Brussels before FOSDEM [1]. One of the session topics was SPDX.
>> Everyone there agreed that SPDX license inclusion criteria should be
>> relaxed.
>> 
>> Adding more restrictions and filters is IMHO counterproductive in several 
>> ways:
>> - it requires more work to apply these restrictions and filters
>> - more work means fewer licenses are added
>> - as a shared "vocabulary" the utility function of the license list is
>> directly related to the number of "words" we can use.
>> 
>> Restricting the number of words in the license vocabulary only means
>> that these words cannot be used in shared conversation about licenses.
>> 
>> But these licenses still exist, so the restrictions impact mostly the
>> usefulness and expressiveness of SPDX, especially in the more common
>> cases where license expressions are used without an SPDX document.
>> 
>> This could increasingly make the SPDX License list irrelevant if it is
>> missing important license vocabulary. The existing and proposed license
>> inclusion criteria seem counterproductive and likely to subtract value from
>> SPDX.
>> 
>> The community does not need SPDX to police or enforce OSS license
>> "purity" via the license list. Instead there should be fewer barriers
>> to adding new licenses to the list in order to optimize the utility of
>> the SPDX license list and the number of common licenses SPDX
>> expressions can deal with.
>> 
>> Since SPDX does not interpret license conditions, the inclusion
>> guidelines should be loosened to include commonly-used and public
>> licenses without an OSS litmus test (e.g. free proprietary licenses).
>> This will become more important for SPDX as more organizations become
>> more focused on compliance and are looking for a way to account for
>> all licenses detected from scans or other analysis.
>> 
>> [1] 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UphruKKAlsoUEidPCwTF2LCcHFnQkvQCQ9luTXfDupw/edit#
>> --
>> Cordially
>> Philippe Ombredanne
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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