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The Grundig came with a wire, but I’ve tried the Grundig both with and without 
it, and even with both antennas attached, and haven’t had any luck picking up 
anything but fairly strong local stations.  Thank you for the suggestions about 
gear, I’ll take a look at those.

Hmm.  If a small portable is so problematic, I wonder how it is that spies use 
them.  Or maybe the don’t use them?  Dunno.  (Obviously.)



On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, john wrote:
> ITed, it's probably both.
> 
> Even a cheapish table top used SW receiver with a random wire will pick up 
> numbers stations , hams,  SWBC stations, etc.   A budget portable with a whip 
> MAY be able to pick them up if you have experience with SW listening and are 
> patient, but you'd do much better to get an Icom R71, or a Kenwood 2000, or 
> something affordable like that, and run a wire as far as you can (even if 
> it's just tacked to the ceiling down the hallway).
> 
> A whip and an inexpensive portable is not going to be easy!


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