Bruno -
After rereading your post, I think I missed part of what you were trying to say.
Topology was introduced because it is expected (indeed even REQUIRED) that the
same prefix would have a different SID in different topologies. This is why for
the purposes of determining "prefix conflict" (different SIDs for the same
prefix) only entries for the same topology (and algorithm) are compared.
However, for the purposes of determining "SID conflicts" (different entries in
the database using the same SID) we MUST compare entries in all topologies
since the label database on a router is a shared resource. This leads to the
following case:
VPN1:
(192.0.2.1/32, 100, 1, 1, 0)
VPN2:
(192.0.2.1/32, 100, 1, 2, 0)
Under the current preference rule defined in the draft these two entries are
considered "identical" - but in fact they are not since they are different
topologies (i.e. different FECs). However, since (as I think Robert was
pointing out in his recent email) topology ids/VPN IDs are not global in scope
they cannot be used as a tie breaker (nor does the draft suggest that should
be). This leads to the following amendment to the preference rule (including
some of your suggested changes):
1. Smaller range wins
2. IPv6 entry wins over IPv4 entry
3. Longer prefix length wins
4. Smaller algorithm wins
5. Smaller starting address (considered as an unsigned integer
value) wins
6. Smaller starting SID wins
7. If topology IDs are NOT identical both entries MUST be ignored
The additional rule (#7) is applied only when doing SID conflicts as prefix
conflicts are limited to the entries in a single topology. And since we cannot
use the topology ID as a tie-breaker because the identifier has only local
scope both entries MUST be ignored.
As to your statement below that:
" Note that it would probably be better for the preference algo to put the SID
tie-brake before the prefix tie-break as with the prefix tie-break, we suffer
from the conflict twice (Prefix - SID mapping, then SID- prefix mapping) which
increase the diversity and hence the chance of not finding a valid entry."
I disagree. Prefix conflicts MUST be determined first - otherwise we risk
ignoring an entry in another topology because it has a SID conflict with an
entry in another topology which will be ignored based on prefix conflict - as
the example I presented below demonstrates.
Are we closer to agreement now?
Les
From: spring [mailto:spring-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:41 PM
To: bruno.decra...@orange.com; spring@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-conflict-resolution - Policy
Bruno -
I am having difficulty parsing the examples you provide below as they seem to
incorporate advertisement source into the description whereas the draft
deliberately omits source. So it does not matter if R2 sends an advertisement
or R12 sends advertisement or both of them do (which could happen when an
advertisement is leaked) - what matters is what unique entries are in the
database independent of source.
It would be good if you could present your examples using the format defined in
the draft i.e.:
Pi - Initial prefix
Pe - End prefix
L - Prefix length
Lx - Maximum prefix length (32 for IPv4, 128 for IPv6)
Si - Initial SID value
Se - End SID value
R - Range value
T - Topology
A - Algorithm
A Mapping Entry is then the tuple: (Pi/L, Si, R, T, A)
Pe = (Pi + ((R-1) << (Lx-L))
Se = Si + (R-1)
Example: (192.0.2.120/32, 200, 1, 0, 0)
As regards your proposal
- Find all SIDi advertised for the prefix P1
// identification of Prefix conflicts
- For each SIDi find all the prefix Pij associated with SIDi
// identification of SID conflicts
Get the best as per the preference algorithm.
If best Pij == P1
then use SIDij for P1
else return no SID
this to me specifies an implementation - which isn't necessary.
However, there is one important point which has not been specified in the draft
which reading your post has brought to my attention - that is the order in
which checks are made.
The draft states:
"Prefix conflicts are specific to mapping entries sharing the same topology
and algorithm."
"SID conflicts are independent of address-family, independent of prefix len,
independent of topology, and independent of algorithm."
If we consider an example where a network supports two VPNs, the significance
of ordering in the evaluation of conflicts will be highlighted:
VPN1:
(192.0.2.1/32, 100, 1, 1, 0)
(192.0.2.1/32, 200, 1, 1, 0)
VPN2:
(192.0.2.100/32, 200, 1, 2, 0)
If we evaluate prefix conflicts first, then the following entries are "active":
(192.0.2.1/32, 100, 1, 1, 0) !VPN1
(192.0.2.100/32, 200, 1, 2, 0) !VPN2
If we evaluate SID conflicts first, then the following entries are "active":
(192.0.2.1/32, 100, 1, 1, 0) !VPN1
The latter choice is suboptimal because it prevents use of the VPN2 entry
unnecessarily.
This point needs to be made explicit in the draft.
Les
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Subject: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-conflict-resolution - Policy
Hi authors, all
As an individual contributor, please find below some feedback on the policy.
I'm wondering if we could address the conflict on a per FEC/Prefix basis rather
than on a per IGP advertisement basis.
If so, this may avoid the discussion between the Quarantine vs ignore policy.
The problem that we need to solve, is to find the SID for a prefix (P1).
The algo could be:
- Find all SIDi advertised for the prefix P1
// identification of Prefix conflicts
- For each SIDi find all the prefix Pij associated with SIDi
// identification of SID conflicts
// as a result, we get a list of SIDi - Pij for P1
Get the best as per the preference algorithm.
If best Pij == P1
then use SIDij for P1
else return no SID / no SID available
for this prefix P1
Note that it would probably be better for the preference algo to put the SID
tie-brake before the prefix tie-break as with the prefix tie-break, we suffer
from the conflict twice (Prefix - SID mapping, then SID- prefix mapping) which
increase the diversity and hence the chance of not finding a valid entry. But
for the below examples, I used the preference algo from draft-ietf-*-00
Below are examples, running this policy on typical configuration error cases.
Examples
3.4.4. Network operation
Consider the following simple network example:
1. 100 nodes: R1 to R100;
2. IP Loopbacks are from 192.0.2.1 to 192.0.2.100:
3. SID are from 1 to 100;
4. R1 to R50 are SR capable and advertised their own SID using
Prefix-SID sub-TLV;
5. R51 to R100 are SR non-capable, running LDP and their SID are
advertised by two redundant Mapping Server MS1 and MS2;
6. As the number of nodes which are SR capable are expected to
increase and as in real deployment their Loopback addresses would
no the contiguous, the Mapping servers advertisement covers all
Loopbacks: (192.0.2.1/32, 1, 100);
Subsequent sections evaluate the consequences of a single
configuration error, for all conflict resolution options.
3.4.4.1. Example 1: SID configured on 1 node conflict with SID
configured on another node
Following a typo during configuration, R2 is configured with a SID of
12. That SID conflicts with the Prefix-SID advertised by R12 and the
Mapping Server Advertisement for R12.
Note: both MS advertisement are the same, so we only consider one in the
below analysis.
All prefix but R2 and R12, a single SID is advertised and hence selected.
For R2, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R2 - SID2 - R2 (MS, MS)
R2 - SID12 - R12 (prefix SID, MS)
R2 - SID12 - R2 (prefix SID, prefix SID)
Best one is R2 - SID12 - R2 (smaller range (prefix SID),smaller range
(prefix SID))
==> SID12 is selected for R2.
For R12, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R12 - SID12 - R12 (prefix SID, prefix SID)
R12 - SID12 - R2 (prefix SID, prefix SID)
R12 - SID12 - R12 (prefix SID, MS)
R12 - SID12 - R2 (MS, prefix SID)
R12 - SID12 - R12 (MS, MS)
Best one is R12 - SID12 - R2 (smaller range (prefix SID),smaller range
(prefix SID), smaller starting adresse (R2))
R12 <> R2 ==> R12 has no SID.
3.4.4.2. Example 2: SID configured on 1 node conflict with SID
configured on the Mapping Server
Following a typo during configuration, R2 is configured with a SID of
52. That SID conflicts with the Mapping Server advertisements of MS1
and MS2 for the loopback of R52.
Note: both MS advertisement are the same, so we only consider one in the
below analysis.
All prefix but R2 and R52, a single SID is advertised and hence selected.
For R2, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R2 - SID52 - R2 (prefix SID, prefix SID)
R2 - SID52 - R52 (prefix SID, MS)
R2 - SID2 - R2 (MS, MS)
Best one is R2 - SID52 - R2 (smaller range (prefix SID),smaller range
(prefix SID))
==> SID52 is selected for R2.
For R52, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R52 - SID52 - R52 (MS, MS)
R52 - SID52 - R2 (MS, prefix SID)
Best one is R52 - SID52 - R2 (smaller range (prefix SID))
R52 <> R2 ==> R52 has no SID.
3.4.4.3. Example 3: wrong configuration of a MS
Following a typo during configuration, MS1 is configured
(192.0.2.0/32, 1, 100). (i.e. 192.0.2.0 instead of 192.0.2.1). That
advertisement conflicts with the Mapping Server advertisements of MS2
and the Prefix-SID advertised by R1...R50.
We have a conflict for all routers except R100.
For LDP only routers R51 to R99 we have a conflict between both MS
advertisement.
For R52, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R52 - SID52 - R52 (MS2, MS2)
R52 - SID52 - R51 (MS2, MS1)
R52 - SID53 - R52 (MS1, MS1)
R52 - SID53 - R53 (MS1, MS2)
Best one is R52 - SID52 - R51 (smaller starting address)
R52 <> R51 ==> R52 has no SID.
For SR routers, R1 to 50, we have a conflict between both MS advertisement
and Prefix SID advertisements.
For R2, the algo evaluates a conflict between the following advertisments:
R2 - SID 2 - R2 (Prefix SID, Prefix SID)
R2 - SID 2 - R2 (Prefix SID, MS2)
R2 - SID 2 - R1 (Prefix SID, MS1)
R2 - SID 2 - R2 (MS2, MS2)
R2 - SID 2 - R2 (MS2, Prefix SID)
R2 - SID 2 - R1 (MS2, MS1)
R2 - SID 3 - R2 (MS1, MS1)
R2 - SID 3 - R3 (MS1, MS2)
R2 - SID 3 - R3 (MS1, Prefix SID)
Best one is R2 - SID 2 - R2 (Prefix SID, Prefix SID)
R2 == R2 hence R2 use SID2.
Regards,
Bruno
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