All, In addition, there is a misunderstanding here.
The draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming LC is being handled by Martin Vigoureux, as stated by Martin in the following: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/w6VJzDYTVRFWOtvHuMso-kkiBXk/ Martin is neither a co-author nor a contributor to the draft. Furthermore, since IETF106, Spring WG has only one active chair, as stated by Martin in the above email. A copy of Martin’s email is cut-and-pasted for quicker reference: ---- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:55:24 -0000 WG, Bruno has been managing SPRING alone since after IETF 106, because Rob has been unable to act as chair. I have made several attempts to find a solution and I now have serious hopes for the situation to return back to normal soon. Bruno being involved in the draft currently in WG LC, I will handle closing it. Martin --- Thanks Regards … Zafar From: spring <spring-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 6:03 PM To: S Moonesamy <sm+i...@elandsys.com> Cc: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>, IETF <i...@ietf.org>, Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming (off-topic) Exception ? As far as I see it this is rather a norm in multiple WGs across IETF for chair to co-author or contribute to his area of focus. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact it is expected for chair to read the draft and comment othen resulting in becoming a contributor or at least being added to the Ack section. If this saga continues any further I recommend we start first by obsoleting RFC8200 too. After all it's main author Bob Hinden was also a 6man chair who requested publication of 2460bis: 2016-12-02 2016-12-02 17:06:39 -0800 08 Bob Hinden IETF WG state changed to Submitted to IESG for Publication from WG Consensus: Waiting for Write-Up 2016-12-02 08 Bob Hinden IESG state changed to Publication Requested 2016-12-02 08 Bob Hinden IESG process started in state Publication Requested 2016-11-30 08 Bob Hinden Changed document writeup 2016-11-15 08 Bob Hinden New version available: draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-08.txt On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:38 PM S Moonesamy <sm+i...@elandsys.com<mailto:sm%2bi...@elandsys.com>> wrote: Hi Andrew, [Cc to ietf@] I'll disclose that I am also affiliated with a RIR. I am copying this message to the Responsible Area Director [1] for the SPRING Working Group. At 01:17 AM 01-03-2020, Andrew Alston wrote: >While some on this list have made references to >Bruno’s integrity – let me start by saying – I >make no comment on anyone’s integrity – because >I don’t know Mr. Decraene well enough to comment >on that, and because I find an individual’s >integrity in a discussion about if a potential >conflict exists to be irrelevant. When people >recuse for conflict in any normal environment, >it is not because they will act on the conflict >necessarily, it is because of perception, >because it can taint the issue under discussion, >and it leaves the process open to both attack and appeal. My question was about the process and the role with respect to draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming. I am not personally acquainted with Mr. Decraene to comment about his integrity. It has been pointed out to me that the person is well-known. I don't see what that has to do with the question which I asked. There is a message at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/3zbi71sjcJ8KaFgVIrF2Ymx4GC8/ which lists the Responsible Area Director as a Contributor. In my opinion, the procedural aspects are problematic. I commented about a somewhat similar topic previously [2]. From what I understand, RFC 2026 is applicable for all documents coming out of the IETF Stream. According to that RFC, the "procedures are explicitly aimed at recognizing and adopting generally-accepted practices". One of the definitions in RFC 7776 is: "A conflict of interest may arise if someone involved in the process of handling a harassment report is in the role of Reporter, Respondent, or Subject. Furthermore, a conflict of interest arises if the person involved in the process of handling a harassment report is closely associated personally or through affiliation with any of the Reporter, Respondent, or Subject". The general practice, in such a situation, is recusal. I'll invite the Responsible Area Director to comment about whether there should be an exception to that practice and the rationale for it. Regards, S. Moonesamy 1. https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/spring/about/ 2. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/xBjDAIM4hdnSTyxL7QHlbiFX3eE/
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