Ketan,

It would not be fair to say that these operators  "wish to deploy a Traffic 
Engineering solution using a subset of Segment Routing". 

It would be fair to say that these operators  "wish to deploy IPv6 Traffic 
Engineering".  Some of these operators don't care about SR. Some are actively 
averse to SRv6. All they want is a Routing header.

                                                                 Ron







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-----Original Message-----
From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:21 AM
To: Ron Bonica <[email protected]>; Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 6man <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

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Hi Ron,

Thanks for that clarification.

I note that you are not anymore saying "Are not interested in SR" like you had 
mentioned before the WG adoption call : 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/LheyFD_uwuHp7tiG8Y1CwKngDYI/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!X2qW2zTZEbZRfBSE6c_KM-k7aIvZTIT9bycp3jyFJ3sTbf8MtGo4E_uGX7zYZ7lk$

So, would it be fair to say that the operator that you are referring to below, 
wishes to deploy a Traffic Engineering solution using a subset of Segment 
Routing (i.e. a reduced portion of Spring Architecture) that only supports 
prefix and adjacency SIDs as indicated by the two "forwarding methods" that are 
referred to in draft-bonica-6man-comp-rtg-hdr?

Thanks,
Ketan

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Bonica <[email protected]>
Sent: 25 May 2020 09:03
To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <[email protected]>; Joel M. Halpern 
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 6man <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

Ketan,

Please consider an operator who:

- Wants a way to steer IPv6 packets through a specified path that includes many 
nodes (>8)
- Does not want any of the following:
        - A new VPN encapsulation technique
        - A new service function chaining technique
        - Network programming
        - MPLS and uSID
        - To encoding instructions in IPv6 addresses.

These operators want a compact routing header, nothing more.

                                                                           Ron


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-----Original Message-----
From: ipv6 <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 1:42 AM
To: Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 6man <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

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I am looking for explanation of the "other ways" that CRH can be used (i.e. 
those outside the Spring architecture). I am trying to understand from the 
authors what would be the applicability of that solution, it's use-cases and 
it's requirements. That is what, I believe, will help us evaluate the CRH 
proposal in the context of this working call. That will help us answer these 
questions like the scope of the SID, 32-bit or 16-bit or something else and 
what the CRH-FIB is going to turn out like.


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