You forgot the sprinkler man's prayer.
   
  Now I lay me down to sleep,
  Sprinklers guard my slumber deep.
  About a fire I'm not concerned. 
  I might get wet,
  But I won't get burned.

Trever Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  This brings up a moral dilemma that I've been struggling with as a
sprinkler designer for several years now. Will I be able to live with
myself if one of my systems activates and drowns a resident of a
retirement home, even if I know that putting out the fire saved the
lives of the rest of the inhabitants? I think we should all ask
ourselves this question.

Thanks,

Trever Williams
Designer
Unlimited Sprinkler Fire Protection
11130 Petal St. Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75238
214-349-8444 - Phone
214-349-8450 - Fax
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another Dumb Article

Just remember TYCO's new Quell motto "Surround and Drown" Maybe they'll 
start a new residential product with "Flood -n- Float" technology.

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Another Dumb Article


> Fire Floods Retirement Home....
> Will it come to this??
> 1. Install uL listed life preservers at every floor
> 2. install sign at sprinkler control valve: In case of fire, shut
valve 
> immediately to prevent drowning and water damage???
>
> I have heard that wet possessions and books can be dried out and
restored.
> But you can't do much with ashes.
> Fire sprinklers save lives!
>
> David Bryan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Another Dumb Article
>
>
> Okay, here's a re-hash of my favorite themes......
> glc
>
>
> Fire Floods Retirement Home
>
> I understand you've started hearing about how ridiculous we sprinkler
guys
> think your drowning report is, and I wonder if a man were to have a
heart
> attack while walking down the street, would a CPR-giver who saves his
life
> be accused of assault for beating on his chest?
>
> We have the technology to economically save the lives of about 99% of 
> those
> who die in building fires. It's an undisputed fact that sprinklers are
the
> best, most cost-efficient way to protect lives and property from fire.
>
> HOWEVER- public perception is one of our biggest enemies due to the 
> media's
> ridiculous slants. Let's go back to the 1960's for a moment-
> Remember SEAT BELTS ? The Feds were "shoving them down our throats". 
> They'd
> add $1,000 per auto if they are mandated. That was some of the BS
you'd
> hear.
> It took a lot of public service announcements, the threat of fines for
> non-compliance, and (DUH!) a couple million people's lives being saved
> 'cause son-of-a-gun, these things really do work after all. NOW when
we 
> read
> a guy is killed in a car wreck, and the story notes he wasn't wearing
his
> seat belt, we shake our heads and think "dumb SOB, he'd have walked
away 
> if
> he'd been wearing it. Sure, it took a generation to get the public
> perception to this point, and certainly compliance is far less than
100% 
> of
> drivers/passengers. But news reports today invariably include whether
the
> involved were wearing seat belts, and we'd ask you start the same for
our
> industry- and for the safety of the public. If you'd start including 
> whether
> sprinklers were installed when you report on a fire, maybe your
grandkids
> will be saved in 30 years when sprinklers are installed IN THEIR HOME
and 
> it
> catches fire at 2 AM.
>
> Or, you could continue with feeding fuel to the misconceptions that we

> drown
> people with sprinklers and the public will continue dying in their
> unsprinklered homes. Sprinklers in my home !!! Omigosh- what if they 
> freeze
> and flood the place!!! Hmm. Guess you'll not have indoor plumbing,
either
> for that argument to hold up. Omigosh- they cost so much!!! Sure, same
as
> wall-to -wall carpeting that no one seems to be omitting so they can 
> afford
> to buy their house.
>
> Hey, we'd like to have you as our ally in this, and maybe move that
> sprinkler quietly saving a building report from page 32 to the front
page
> where the hero characteristics are better off- tragedy averted. Cover
a 
> burn
> trailer demonstration. Understand that while smoke detectors yell
FIRE! A
> sprinkler system will yell FIRE! And put water on the fire. DUH- which

> would
> you rather have in your child's bedroom?
>
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