Rahe,

I do not disagree. However, the unfortunate fact is that many firms are frequently hired to find a JUSTIFICATION for a position they want to make, not just to provide "the truth." For example, look at how many expert witnesses are used in the court system to justify a particular position. Or do lawyers always put truth ahead of justification for the position of their clients? In such cases they look for something - ANYTHING - that they can use to justify their clients' position, and appease their own conscience. In such cases they do not focus on the black and white of the issue, but focus on the gray.

Your second paragraph is very important.... that it is a blot on the profession and in my opinion professional fire protection engineers have the most credibility on this issue. AFSA will issue a response on this, and the expected reaction from some will be "of course that is their position because they have a financial interest in seeing the ordinance approved." On the other hand, if a lot of professional engineers reacted publicly by denouncing this statement and noting that such outrageous statements do not accurately reflect the opinion of other professional engineers, it might have an effect on the firm and on the individual. However, I do not expect that to happen since engineers, like most other professions, are hesitant to criticize their peers except in extreme cases.


Steve Muncy





On May 16, 2007, at 6:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Steve,
Well put.  However, I think that two things must be considered.

First, the public will always see the spokesman as representing the firm they work for. An example is when we see the police department personnel on TV. We all believe that whatever is reported is the police department's
position.

Second, as professional fire protection engineers, we should know the
difference and provide correct opinions. It is a blot on our professions for a major firm's fire protection engineer to publically report incorrect
information.

While Schirmer, as a firm, may not agree with their employee's opinion, they still receive the brunt of the publicity. I believe that Schirmer should publically announce their opinion as a firm in order to clear up any
discrepancy.

Thank You

Rahe Loftin, P.E.
Region 7 - GSA
Office - 817-978-7299
Fax - 817-978-8644
Cell - 817-371-3102

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