George,

That situation is covered in the fire code.....its an "occasional" use. 

John  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hand car wash

A local bank allows kids to run fundraisers in their parking lot on
weekends, washing cars.

When the sun is beating down like today (Ron, I feel your pain and wish
the convention was in Dec or ND) the kids might move under the porte
cochere.

How badge-heavy would a code official be to stop on his day off and run
'em out into the blazing sun?

Oh, final irony- the local bank is, of course, unsprinklered. But what's
in there to burn?

And in stepping back to the big picture, why require parked cars
(overnight)under a porte cochere to be sprinklered above when a
multi-story parking garage with x% openings doesn't need sprinklers in
many cases?

We're installing sprinklers under the noncombustible overhangs at a
couple fancy car dealerships since they will have cars on display there,
although the area is marked "new car delivery" on the plans. Since their
low end cars start in the $40's, maybe it's the price of inventory, not
code compliance, that drove the dealer and code official to agree on the
need to provide dry systems in these small areas (<20 heads each). I
don't want to find out what dripping AF does to German paint.

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Drucker
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hand car wash

Correct, and its no longer a car wash either. There are times when we
need to look at the big picture and determine if the proposed occupancy,
operation and hazard fits within the boundaries of a code or standard.
If it doesn't and some component or circumstance presents an issue that
is out of bounds then we need to look at our fire protection objectives.

This is just such a situation where the AHJ needs to get involved.

John Drucker
Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby
Gillett
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hand car wash

Not if they stay parked there all night

Bobby Gillett
Project Manager
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(731)-424-0130

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hand car wash

Well, there's the guy with the hose......

glc


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