Richard, That is correct in terms of a Fire Dept Engine pumping an FDC. As per the standard the FDC connection is on the discharge side of the pump.
What I was referring to in general terms was the value of a bypass to allow water, albeit at street pressure, to pass around the pump. John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ) New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: impairment procedures The FDC is supposed to be connected to the system side of the fire pump, in which case the bypass would be irrelevant. Richard L. Mote Designer Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Drucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: RE: impairment procedures Roland, et. al. Dave Phelan pretty much summed up the issues surrounding fire watches. There is no one size fits all. The determination as to when it is appropriate to employ a fire watch requires a through evaluation of fire protection objectives. For example in a small building where life safety and only life safety is the issue a fire watch may be employed to patrol, notify the fire department and evacuate the building. The number of fire watch personnel must be determined. Not so long ago we had a fire pump burn up in a high rise. There is no suitable fire watch for this scenario since suppression is a significant component of life safety and not simply detection and notification. The building owner had the choice of evacuating the premises or having a fire department engine 24/7 pressurized on the FDC for the duration of the impairment. The latter was chosen. (PS- One more reason why a bypass should always be installed). Fire Protection is like a jigsaw puzzle, take away too many and/or major pieces and we loose sight of the big picture. John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official Also an AHJ in NJ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: impairment procedures You would be one tough AHJ. I don't believe he would be required to shut down but would have to implement an impairment procedure, part of which is a manned fire watch 24/7. I am sure there are some occupancies that would entail shutting down the operation, for instance high hazard occupancies, high occupant facilities (aka The Station), etc. I'll let our AHJ friends chime in on the specifics. Roland On Jul 11, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Ken Holsopple wrote: > Rod, > > One other thing that might be useful is asking the owner if he is > willing to shut his hotel down if the pool requires maintenance and > the pool has to be drained. > > > Best Regards, > Ken Holsopple > Design Manager > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > 570-837-7647 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject > field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
