Sounds like the old "neutron bomb" theory. Kill large numbers of
people without causing massive amounts of property damage.
At 03:45 PM 8/3/2007, you wrote:
Can you believe this gentleman told me that he had been told 20 times that
NFPA 13 systems protect property only and not life safety? This is a normal
intelligent businessman who said this?
No longer fuming, but wanting to go home and boss my dog around,
Greg
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
- work
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Owner's Information Certificate
Greg,
It would be good to mention where the OH2 requirement came from.
At 03:33 PM 8/3/2007, you wrote:
>This letter is to reiterate the fact the sprinkler system in your new
>building is designed and installed for Ordinary Hazard Group II occupancy.
>We have installed the system per approved drawings with some small
>modifications as required per jobsite conditions.
>
>Please note that your future tenants should be advised that if they use the
>building for storage of commodities, storage heights or storage
arrangements
>other than provided for Ordinary Hazard Group II in NFPA #13; the system
>could be inadequate and will not be in compliance with code.
>
>If you or your tenants have specific questions we will be glad to assist in
>any way that we can.
>
>(Best I can do on a Friday afternoon.)
>
>Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
>1160 McKenzie Road
>Cantonment, FL 32533
>850-937-1850
>Fax: 850-937-1852
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garth W.
>Warren
>Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 3:37 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Owner's Information Certificate
>
>Greg - sounds like you are handling it very professionally (well, ok,
except
>for the fuming part) with your letter which will complement the data
>nameplate on the riser. I'd try and avoid the negatives in the letter and
>maybe state the various types of occupancies for which the system is
>properly designed.
>
>Garth
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Greg McGahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:39 PM
>Subject: Owner's Information Certificate
>
>
> > New spec warehouse designed for Ordinary Hazard Group II occupancy.
>Halfway
> > through construction we find out that half of the warehouse is leased to
a
> > major retailer who also performs home improvements and they intend to
>store
> > home improvement items in the space.
> >
> > I thought we were correct in sending the GC an OIC and asking the tenant
>to
> > complete and return. It comes back with vinyl siding stored in racks to
> > 11'-0".
> >
> > We inform the owner and GC (one and the same) that the system is
>inadequate
> > and needs to be addressed. Mr Owner calls me, blesses me thoroughly for
> > trying to monitor the world and asks if I intend to do daily inspections
>of
> > the premises to make sure the tenant is storing in accordance with OH2
and
> > etc, etc, etc.
> >
> > I review 13 4.3 and A4.3 and realize that there is a tremendous hole in
>the
> > standard. Although the intent is spelled out in the appendix it stops
>short
> > of describing the exact situation that we have here.
> >
> > Why doesn't it say that the OIC must be reviewed and resigned by the
owner
> > after the building is built? In this case the owner feels that if we
have
>an
> > OIC prior to starting the job we should shut up and move since 13 does
not
> > REQUIRE us to revisit the design after that. The change of occupancy
does
> > not technically apply since the building has not yet, nor will be
occupied
> > when we finish.
> >
> > In order to cover us, we are going to write a letter stating that the
>system
> > is OH2 and any tenants should comply with all that entails or they are
not
> > in compliance and the system is not adequate.
> >
> > And before you all attack me and tell me to walk, this happens to be one
>of
> > the most stable and established GC's in our little town and we really do
>not
> > want to alienate him.
> >
> > Still fuming,
> > Greg
> >
> > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
> > 1160 McKenzie Road
> > Cantonment, FL 32533
> > 850-937-1850
> > Fax: 850-937-1852
> >
> >
> >
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