How far do the fabric panels "sag" down?  Is there a way to drop a
pendent sprinkler in between the panels and set the deflector at *12 (or
greater if obstructed construction)?  If you can get the deflector the
maximum allowable distance below the deck, you may be able to get it far
enough down to minimize the obstruction to discharge created by the
panels.  Tricky problem and it may not look pretty, but this is the best
idea I can offer (without getting paid of course).

I like Joe's idea of kicking it back to the architect.  It's their
design, let them sweat the solution.  They would probably be more
willing to modify their design to suit the sprinkler constraints.  But
we all know that although the professional responsibility lies with the
design professional, the expertise is with the contractor and AHJ,
absent a true FPE.

Ray Schmid, PE
Koffel Associates 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Kettler
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Lapendary Panels

Lots of church questions this week. 

These panels are fire-retardant as required by the Fire Code. We
couldn't
have the drop into the crows as that would pose a further hazard for
egress.
The panels themselves are in 12ft lengths - the exact width hasn't been
determined but should be no more than 24" wide. The panels will be
screwed
into the plywood roof decking at currently unspecified intervals. 

Jim



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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Lapendary Panels

Jim,

This is somewhat similar to the problem I have described in a church 
sanctuary. The difference is that my project has the fabric tensioned 
around a frame. Joe's response is probably on target, except the 
design that I got from the Engineer on my project is nothing that I 
would put my stamp on. I'm assuming that these are continuous pieces 
of fabric, so the idea of a magnetic release hooked up to a detector 
is out of the question.


At 09:22 AM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>I have a church being built with a large auditorium. There will be an
open
>ceiling exposing the roof structure: metal trusses with a plywood roof
>decking. For sound deadening, there are installing "lapendary panels"
as
>seen here:
>http://www.mbiproducts.com/products/photos.aspx?ProductID=4000-1010P
The
>most appropriate photo is in the second column, 3rd photo down from the
top.
>The "fabric" panels will run essentially parallel to the roofline -
between
>the trusses.
>
>We are looking at the best way to sprinkler the room. Do we install
>sprinklers below the panels or above or both? Our concerns are that
>sprinklers above will be obstructed by the panels and/or sprinklers
below
>might not collect enough heat to fuse the sprinklers. Any thoughts?
>
>Jim Kettler
>Fire Marshal
>Buckingham, PA



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