Thanks Roland, that helps my feelings. Russell
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 3000 sq. ft. design area The reason this issue was addressed is that the prior edition simply said Buildings With an Unprotected Concealed Space shall have a 3000 sf Remote Area. So if you have a 12 story building with ONE such space only on the first floor, the 12th floor still had to have a 3000 sf remote area. It was changed to say adjacent. It doesn't say HORIZONTALLY so it includes the floor above. The issue of the office within a warehouse was not discussed (and guessing where a group of 30 votes will land is often an exercise in futility) but I would think it is still applicable. Keep in mind that the area above the office is at a lower density than the rest of the warehouse (except for the 15 ft overlap) Roland On Apr 21, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Russell wrote: > > > > > _____ > > From: Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:15 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: 3000 sq. ft. design area > > > > This subject started from another thread but it brings up some > situations > that exist that have always baffled me. For one, 13 states that the > 3000 > s.f. is applied to the sprinkler system or portions of the > sprinkler system > adjacent to the unsprinklered concealed area. The floor (and system > on that > floor) above a level that has unsprinklered combustible concealed > spaces is > “adjacent” so why wouldn’t the 3000 s.f. also be required on the level > above? As a matter of fact, as was stated earlier, the fire is > above the > sprinklers on the lower level. Not all buildings have fire rated floor > systems. It is quite common ,as in stick built wood frame condos and > apartments to name a few, to have non rated sub-floors on non rated > floor > framing. > > For another, what about a lone 2500 sq. ft. wood framed office/tool > room/restrooms structure with unsprinklered combustible concealed > space, > sorta like an ‘island” in a manufacturing building which is > designed with a > 1500 sq. ft. remote are? Should the system at the roof deck above this > “island structure” be designed to 3000 s.f.? Now the roof design is > inadequate unless there was a huge safety margin in its original > design. > > Just a thought that’s been bugging me. > > > > Russell Rewis > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.1/1384 - Release Date: > 4/17/2008 > 3:47 PM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: > 4/20/2008 > 3:01 PM > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date: 4/21/2008 8:34 AM _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
