Generally fees and the method in which they are calculated are provided for by 
legislation, statute, ordinance or code. Ask the city to cite the statute, code 
or ordinance. At the same time ask how to appeal their position and be prepared 
to challenge them.  In New Jersey anyone can challenge a code official by 
filing an appeal to the construction board of appeals. In that arena the code 
official must prove the citation to an impartial board. The boards ruling is 
binding on both parties. 

I don't know how it works outside the garden state.

Hope that helps

John Drucker
Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ)

 

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What I meant was, what kind of documentation do I take into the city manager 
that supports my assertion that what the plan checker is requiring is wrong? It 
is stated on the redondo beach fire department web page: Fees: The fees for 
plan review are set by contract total. I thought the fees were based on the 
cost of the materials, not labor, insurance costs, other overhead, etc.




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The demand from the fire department for a copy of your contract.   If they just 
TELL you across the counter and refuse to document it, I'd complain about that 
too.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting


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Yes, I agree, but with what supporting documentation? 


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Go to the City Manager's office and file a complaint ASAP.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting


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Subject: Determining permit fees on total value

I posted an email on this topic a few days ago. I now have additional 
information.



The city of redonodo beach, ca. is now basing their permit fees on the "total 
contract value", meaning, cost of install and the profit. They are requiring 
the 

customer contract to be submitted with the plans for review and approval. They 
are currently withholding approved plans and will not release them until they 
get copies the signed customer contracts.




Can anyone offer a swift and definitive way to counter this requirement?




Thanks,

Mike
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